Sunak vows to end asylum claims from small boat arrivals

[Nearly Sane]

By passing a law that is effectively already in place, and by using misleading language as regards legality. Posturing.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64848101

[Spud]

The only people who can stop the boat crossings are the French, by preventing them launching. If crossing by boat is illegal, why aren't they stopping it?

[Nearly Sane]

The only people who can stop the boat crossings are the French, by preventing them launching. If crossing by boat is illegal, why aren't they stopping it?

Do you think it's illegal in France?

[Spud]

Do you think it's illegal in France?

I assumed so, maybe it isn't?

[Nearly Sane]

I assumed so, maybe it isn't?

What law do you think it would be against?

[Udayana]

The only people who can stop the boat crossings are the French, by preventing them launching. If crossing by boat is illegal, why aren't they stopping it?

Why would it be illegal to leave France in a boat?

The only people who can stop the dangerous small boat crossings are the people paying to cross - by taking safer options if they exist.

[ProfessorDavey]

The only people who can stop the boat crossings are the French, by preventing them launching. If crossing by boat is illegal, why aren't they stopping it?

I don't think it is illegal for someone to get in a boat in France. It may have been illegal for them to arrive in France in the first place but that is another matter.

[Spud]

People trafficking is illegal in France. So are the French responsible for stopping this?

[Stranger]

The only people who can stop the boat crossings are the French, by preventing them launching. If crossing by boat is illegal, why aren't they stopping it?

Actually the UK government could stop them quite easily by providing safe, legal, properly funded, and efficient ways to apply for asylum, either from other countries before they get here, or by providing safe and legal routes to get here to do so.

We are not taking our fair share of refugees compared with other countries but it suits the nasty, cruel and incompetent fools in the government to demonise the often desperate and traumatised people who are making the crossings and make absurd claims of an "invasion" and so on, instead of sorting out the problem with a bit of pragmatism and compassion.

Suella Braverman’s small boats crackdown is performative cruelty at its worst

[Spud]

Actually the UK government could stop them quite easily by providing safe, legal, properly funded, and efficient ways to apply for asylum, either from other countries before they get here, or by providing safe and legal routes to get here to do so.

We are not taking our fair share of refugees compared with other countries but it suits the nasty, cruel and incompetent fools in the government to demonise the often desperate and traumatised people who are making the crossings and make absurd claims of an "invasion" and so on, instead of sorting out the problem with a bit of pragmatism and compassion.

Suella Braverman’s small boats crackdown is performative cruelty at its worst

Yes I see your point. But is it not still the responsibility of the French to stop the small boats setting off regardless of whether the UK will take them? If the UK has a quota that it is able to process and accommodate, then once that quota is reached, then should people be sent back to the last safe country they came through, (ie France) and wait until the UK can accommodate them?

[Udayana]