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Re: In what way is or isn't the multiverse a single entity?
« Reply #100 on: March 17, 2023, 05:01:07 PM »
Vlad,

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Good to see you still have a sense of humour.

Agnosticism is now the default position now is it? What happened to the heady days when Atheism was the default position?

Perhaps you missed the part when I invited you to stop fucking around?

OK then, so now we're pretty clear that you have no argument to justify your claim that the universe must be a contingent thing. So that's your iteration of the first cause "proof" for "god" cattled then. To be frank we all knew you had nothing in the locker, and that no amount of your endless ducking and diving would get you off that hook.

Good to have it confirmed though.     

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Re: In what way is or isn't the multiverse a single entity?
« Reply #101 on: March 17, 2023, 05:20:38 PM »
No, still no defence or explanation of the claim that ''Everything in the universe could have a cause but the universe doesn't need a cause'' .

Not that I've actually seen this claim being made, but FYI, it's actually trivially easy to defend because causality concerns the relationships between events (i.e. the equivalent of a point in space, generalised to space-time) within space-time, so asking for a cause of space-time itself is pretty nonsensical.

This is actually pretty basic modern physics.
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Re: In what way is or isn't the multiverse a single entity?
« Reply #102 on: March 17, 2023, 05:23:38 PM »
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Not that I've actually seen this claim being made,...

It hasn't been - that's just Vlad straw manning again.
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Re: In what way is or isn't the multiverse a single entity?
« Reply #103 on: March 17, 2023, 05:53:10 PM »
It hasn't been...

 :o What!? Vlad just making shit up? Never thought I'd see the day. Shocked, I tell you! Shocked!
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Re: In what way is or isn't the multiverse a single entity?
« Reply #104 on: March 17, 2023, 06:15:00 PM »
Stranger,

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What!? Vlad just making shit up? Never thought I'd see the day. Shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

I know! As the man who cut the bottom off his trouser leg and tossed it through the door of his local library said: “There’s a turn-up for the books!”

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