US Presidential Election 2024

[SteveH]

Apparently, 23% of statistics are made up.

[Nearly Sane]

Apparently, 23% of statistics are made up.

The problem being that this one is not made up, it's either a deliberate or ignorant misinterpretation - which is worrying for the current second, if distant, favourite for the Republican nomination.

[Nearly Sane]

Colorado court says Trump cannot be on ballot for president in Colorado. Can't see this being upheld all the way through appeal process. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67768873

[Nearly Sane]

Supreme Court refuses to fast track Trump's claim to immunity


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67808655

[Nearly Sane]

'Trump's strategy to delay trial may be winning' or indeed it may not and make everything worse according to the article.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67805820

[Nearly Sane]

Maine kicks Trump off ballot

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67837639

[SqueakyVoice]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/jan/01/green-day-new-years-eve-trump-american-idiot

Green Day changes lyric to hit out at Trump in New Year’s Eve performance ...
, replaced the line
“I’m not a part of a redneck agenda” with,
 “I’m not a part of the Maga agenda”

[ekim]

Foreign payments to U.S. President Trump.....
http://tinyurl.com/32x2zvc3

[Nearly Sane]

Foreign payments to U.S. President Trump.....
http://tinyurl.com/32x2zvc3

All of this is effectively discounted by his supporters  as either perfectly ok, or a put up job.

[SqueakyVoice]

If you read the whole  article you'll find out that UK Homeowners Are Eligible For A £1,500 Loft Insulation  Voucher

[Nearly Sane]

US Supreme Court to decide on whether Trump should be stopped from standing because of the Jan 6th riots! Can't see them stopping him, but if they did I can't see it beimg peaceful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67899435

[ad_orientem]

US Supreme Court to decide on whether Trump should be stopped from standing because of the Jan 6th riots! Can't see them stopping him, but if they did I can't see it beimg peaceful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67899435

Flynn, Mcgregor etc will see that it ain't peaceful. MAGAmoron Qanon brigade! Traitors in broad daylight!

[Nearly Sane]

Trump's case not starting well

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67920129

[Nearly Sane]

Christie pulls out. Says of Trump 'I am going to make sure that in no way do I enable Donald Trump to ever be president of the United States again'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67942038

[Spud]

US Supreme Court to decide on whether Trump should be stopped from standing because of the Jan 6th riots! Can't see them stopping him, but if they did I can't see it beimg peaceful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67899435

Re the riots. I saw this video back in November, which discusses the full cctv evidence that has recently been released. It shows police firing and throwing sting grenades into the crowd before the demonstrators started becoming violent. (See from about 15:30 in video).

[SqueakyVoice]

Oh For fucks sake. No.

Why do you keep supporting strong armed thugs who would rather burn the world than be proven liars.

[Nearly Sane]

The Punchless debate. Iowa Republican caucus Monday, New Hampshire primary a week on Tuesday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67942133

[Nearly Sane]

Iowa Christians for Trump. Perhaps they think they are using any tool available. Pity they don't realise how much this tool is screwing them

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67918713

[Nearly Sane]

Some of the stories in Iowa

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67977977

[Nearly Sane]

Trump wins, Ramaswamy drops out and endorsechim. Haley and DeSantis battle for the right to lose last.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67989443

[ad_orientem]

Iowa Christians for Trump. Perhaps they think they are using any tool available. Pity they don't realise how much this tool is screwing them

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67918713

Yeah! MAGA definitely isn't a cult, is it! You should see some of the artwork they're coming out with depicting Trump!🤮

[ProfessorDavey]

Trump wins, Ramaswamy drops out and endorsechim. Haley and DeSantis battle for the right to lose last.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67989443

Something that doesn't seem to have been picked up is turnout.

Yesterday turnout was over 40% lower than in 2016, the last time there was a Republican caucus not involving an incumbent president. Now there may be a bunch of reasons for this, such as:

1. The weather - no idea how yesterday compared to Jan 2016, but I guess it is always darned cold in Iowa in Jan.
2. That the result seemed certain so less likelihood for people to vote.
3. That while Trump is clearly preferred amongst the candidates there is less overall enthusiasm resulting in more people sitting on their hands.

If the reason is 1 or 2 then there is no concern for Trump. However if there is an element of 3, that may be worrying as it may suggest a softening of support amongst even the hard-core (registered Republican voters) if they are less willing to turn out to vote for him.

[Nearly Sane]

Something that doesn't seem to have been picked up is turnout.

Yesterday turnout was over 40% lower than in 2016, the last time there was a Republican caucus not involving an incumbent president. Now there may be a bunch of reasons for this, such as:

1. The weather - no idea how yesterday compared to Jan 2016, but I guess it is always darned cold in Iowa in Jan.
2. That the result seemed certain so less likelihood for people to vote.
3. That while Trump is clearly preferred amongst the candidates there is less overall enthusiasm resulting in more people sitting on their hands.

If the reason is 1 or 2 then there is no concern for Trump. However if there is an element of 3, that may be worrying as it may suggest a softening of support amongst even the hard-core (registered Republican voters) if they are less willing to turn out to vote for him.

To be fsir, 2016 was a record turnout, and it was much much colder this time. But I think the idea of 3 is borne out in that in polling Haley is more likely to beat Biden than Trump.

[ProfessorDavey]

To be fsir, 2016 was a record turnout, and it was much much colder this time. But I think the idea of 3 is borne out in that in polling Haley is more likely to beat Biden than Trump.

It may be the equivalent of Tory members voting for Truss. A tiny group that are massively unrepresentative of the mainstream of political opinion considering that the most extreme candidate is what the country needs.

Problem is that Biden is hardly inspiring.

[Nearly Sane]

It may be the equivalent of Tory members voting for Truss. A tiny group that are massively unrepresentative of the mainstream of political opinion considering that the most extreme candidate is what the country needs.

Problem is that Biden is hardly inspiring.

Not sure the analogy works. Trump looks like taking a majority of Republican registered votes in the primaries which is a vastly bigger number than Truss's electorate for leadership. He's already won a presidential election.

I'm not sure that Biden's lack of inspirational qualities is that significant in the rhe divide in the US. Indeed an inspirational leader might increase that divide.