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Nearly Sane

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #325 on: July 19, 2024, 06:41:30 PM »
Curiosity I guess. But someone in the comments has pointed out that in the second video, after the first three shots the camera is turned at least 90°-ish, which would reorientate the microphone and could change the sound of the shots, giving the impression that they came from a different weapon.
You are missing the point. Why would this be done?

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #326 on: July 19, 2024, 06:45:25 PM »
Curiosity I guess. But someone in the comments has pointed out that in the second video, after the first three shots the camera is turned at least 90°-ish, which would reorientate the microphone and could change the sound of the shots, giving the impression that they came from a different weapon.

Just don't go down the rabbit hole of just believing them. There will be a huge industry of such stuff, just like around JFK, people making money out of it.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #327 on: July 19, 2024, 07:56:55 PM »
I've been watching this conspiracy theory which is an analysis of two separate videos of the shooting in different locations, the first near the stage and the second somewhere further away. In the second video it's clear that the first three shots, or at least shots two and three, are not from the same weapon that fired the 4th-8th shots. But in video 1, shots 1-3 and 4-8 have a similar time delay between the sonic boom of the bullet as it hits the microphone and the sound from the bullet being fired. (Remember the bullet travels faster than sound, so the sonic boom is heard first near the target.)
His conclusion is that both weapons were fired at the stage, ruling out the second weapon being the counter-sniper's.
So two shooters. The sniper shot that killed Crooks was about 10 seconds after the first 8 shots.
https://youtu.be/LouUbMYb7Bc?si=mdEF0rZXkrz9WTz2
What a load of half-arsed bollocks.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #328 on: July 20, 2024, 08:01:12 PM »
Yeah! Definitely not a cult 🤣

Made into a meme already...

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #329 on: July 21, 2024, 09:30:23 AM »
You are missing the point. Why would this be done?
Because people have been doing everything they can to try and stop Trump becoming president, and failing.

Just don't go down the rabbit hole of just believing them. There will be a huge industry of such stuff, just like around JFK, people making money out of it.
Sure, but a lot of them are genuinely trying to work out why it happened.

What a load of half-arsed bollocks.
It does require a bit of thinking to understand what he's saying. I followed it mainly because that day was so hot, you couldn't do much else.

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« Reply #330 on: July 21, 2024, 01:51:29 PM »
Sure, but a lot of them are genuinely trying to work out why it happened.

Some are for sure but many are not, and they are putting up their version of events - not trying to find out what happened - in order to make money from it.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #331 on: July 21, 2024, 07:02:34 PM »
Biden steps down - was on the cards I suppose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e5xpdzkd8o

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #332 on: July 21, 2024, 07:09:02 PM »
Biden steps down - was on the cards I suppose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e5xpdzkd8o

About time.  ::)

Just hope they sort out a reasonable replacement quickly. Somebody needs to stop Trump and his mindless cult.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #333 on: July 21, 2024, 07:32:47 PM »
He'll stay in post until his term is up, and no doubt that will be challenged, and apparently he endorses Kamala Harris.

Interesting times, and all that.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #334 on: July 21, 2024, 07:57:39 PM »
About time.  ::)

Just hope they sort out a reasonable replacement quickly. Somebody needs to stop Trump and his mindless cult.

Has to be Harris doesn't it, due to the funding pledges or something similar?

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #335 on: July 21, 2024, 08:07:44 PM »
I don't know that much about the target groups in the US electorate, but I'd imagine a female, who is pro-choice and relatively young would have some appeal - and Trump now becomes the 'elderly' candidate.

Get your popcorn in before the rush.
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« Reply #336 on: July 21, 2024, 08:23:50 PM »
I hope they choose Harris. It would be a breath of fresh air. The only question is, is America ready for such a choice? I hope so. Hopefully America isn't that far gone yet, despite the best efforts of Trump and co.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #337 on: July 21, 2024, 08:24:43 PM »
Has to be Harris doesn't it, due to the funding pledges or something similar?

I did hear something like that, but there are still people talking about other options. I don't think anything thing like this has happened before, so who knows?

I'm literally on another US based forum at the moment and other names have been mentioned, but it now looks like Biden is endorsing Harris now, so it's probably what will happen.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #338 on: July 21, 2024, 08:45:18 PM »
I hope they choose Harris. It would be a breath of fresh air. The only question is, is America ready for such a choice? I hope so. Hopefully America isn't that far gone yet, despite the best efforts of Trump and co.
She's been useless as VP. Not that it's the easiest role to shine in but she hasn't at all.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #339 on: July 21, 2024, 09:25:07 PM »
She's been useless as VP. Not that it's the easiest role to shine in but she hasn't at all.

I agree. It is like she hasn't been there.

I saw a vox pop recently where they were asking registered democrats about Harris and the majority interviewed were not keen at all. However, recent polls say that 60% of Democrats would definitely support her. Still, 40% of democrats undecided (at best) is not encouraging.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #340 on: July 21, 2024, 09:32:55 PM »
I agree. It is like she hasn't been there.

I saw a vox pop recently where they were asking registered democrats about Harris and the majority interviewed were not keen at all. However, recent polls say that 60% of Democrats would definitely support her. Still, 40% of democrats undecided (at best) is not encouraging.

Would they prefer Trump?

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #341 on: July 21, 2024, 09:39:19 PM »
Would they prefer Trump?
Not really the choice there.

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« Reply #342 on: July 21, 2024, 09:48:00 PM »
Not really the choice there.

It is about whether the 40% who aren't keen is relevant when it comes to voting in the election.

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« Reply #343 on: July 21, 2024, 09:49:59 PM »
Would they prefer Trump?

I'm not sure I understand the US voting public (I'm not sure I know the UK one for that matter), but I do know that a demotivated voting bloc just isn't going to cut it in a tight race.

Unless Harris can shine and outperform Trump immediately we'll get that dreaded second Trump term. Fuck that's depressing.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #344 on: July 21, 2024, 09:52:35 PM »
I'm not sure I understand the US voting public (I'm not sure I know the UK one for that matter), but I do know that a demotivated voting bloc just isn't going to cut it in a tight race.

Unless Harris can shine and outperform Trump immediately we'll get that dreaded second Trump term. Fuck that's depressing.

Surely they would be motivated to stop Trump getting in.

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« Reply #345 on: July 21, 2024, 09:56:49 PM »
Surely they would be motivated to stop Trump getting in.
or the Democrats who don't care about them? You've just had a party that wanted an 'incompetent' to stand as President.
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« Reply #346 on: July 21, 2024, 10:04:10 PM »
or the Democrats who don't care about them? You've just had a party that wanted an 'incompetent' to stand as President.

Who are 'them'?

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #347 on: July 21, 2024, 10:04:56 PM »

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Reply #348 on: July 21, 2024, 10:06:39 PM »
Voters

Okay, but how does that relate to the voters not wanting Trump?

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« Reply #349 on: July 21, 2024, 10:14:51 PM »
Okay, but how does that relate to the voters not wanting Trump?
Because they would have to vote Harris, and why is that a better choice for many of them.