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Louis Pasteur quotes
« on: May 02, 2023, 05:36:43 AM »
Hi everyone

Louis Pasteur has said..."Little science takes you away from God but more of it takes you to Him".

Also..."Posterity will one day laugh at the sublime foolishness of the modern materialistic philosophy".

Spoken like a true scientist...!

Cheers.

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Re: Louis Pasteur quotes
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2023, 07:49:47 AM »
Hi everyone

Louis Pasteur has said..."Little science takes you away from God but more of it takes you to Him".

Also..."Posterity will one day laugh at the sublime foolishness of the modern materialistic philosophy".

Spoken like a true scientist...!

Cheers.

Sriram

Spoken like someone who was raised in a religious household and who continued the second quote with 'The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator. I pray while I am engaged at my work in the laboratory.'

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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2023, 07:51:38 AM »
Spoken like a true scientist...!

Where "true scientist", in this context, is defined as "a scientist who has said something Sriram agrees with".  ::)

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Re: Louis Pasteur quotes
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2023, 10:26:30 AM »
He was fond of glass or two, perhaps the first quotes were written after the imbibition of the liquid in these quotes:

"Wine is the most healthful and most hygienic of beverages.”

“A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.” ― Louis Pasteur.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: Louis Pasteur quotes
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2023, 10:29:41 AM »

A 'true scientist'....one who can integrate seemingly conflicting ideas and take a big picture view....and avoid microscopic, fanatical views.

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2023, 04:01:25 PM »
Louis Pasteur:

"This milk's off."
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2023, 07:33:55 PM »
"When you're  playing cricket  and a fast bowler is bowling short, make sure the ball goes pasturise".
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Re: Louis Pasteur quotes
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2023, 07:06:57 AM »


How easy it is to pour scorn on truly eminent people just because your microscopic view does not match their broad vision!   ::)

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2023, 08:09:14 AM »

How easy it is to pour scorn on truly eminent people just because your microscopic view does not match their broad vision!   ::)

How easy it is to be condescending to other people just because they challenge your unfounded beliefs.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2023, 08:24:07 AM »
A 'true scientist'....one who can integrate seemingly conflicting ideas and take a big picture view....and avoid microscopic, fanatical views.

Which is just a negation of some of the silly things you accuse people who don't agree with you of doing.  ::)
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2023, 08:29:35 AM »

How easy it is to pour scorn on truly eminent people just because your microscopic view does not match their broad vision!   ::)
You don't understand the scientific community, do you Sriram.

The scientific community tend not to focus on the individual, they focus on the science - in other words their contribution to the advancement of science.

So Pasteur legacy is based on his science not his personal opinions.

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2023, 09:40:12 AM »

How easy it is to pour scorn on truly eminent people just because your microscopic view does not match their broad vision!   ::)

Your sense of humour seems to be malfunctioning.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2023, 09:41:15 AM »
"When you're  playing cricket  and a fast bowler is bowling short, make sure the ball goes pasturise".
You wouldn't believe how long I spent trying to figure out how to make that pun work - and failed.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2023, 11:27:25 AM »
Spoken like someone who was raised in a religious household and who continued the second quote with 'The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator. I pray while I am engaged at my work in the laboratory.'
Religion aside you are overlooking Pasteur's verdict on materialist philosophy reached presumably by philosophy at a time when intellectuals understood philosophy rather than follow scientism unthinkingly.

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2023, 11:31:27 AM »
You don't understand the scientific community, do you Sriram.

The scientific community tend not to focus on the individual, they focus on the science - in other words their contribution to the advancement of science.

So Pasteur legacy is based on his science not his personal opinions.

In comes Mister Davey with a ''no true scientist argument''.
I think you are talking about Pasteur's scientific legacy aren't you Doc?

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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2023, 11:34:55 AM »
Religion aside you are overlooking Pasteur's verdict on materialist philosophy reached presumably by philosophy...

All we have from the quote is an unargued opinion. If you know the reasoning behind it (if there was any) then feel free to present it.

...rather than follow scientism unthinkingly.

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2023, 11:44:51 AM »
In comes Mister Davey with a ''no true scientist argument''.
Bollocks - where did I ever say that?

I think you are talking about Pasteur's scientific legacy aren't you Doc?
Which is exactly what I'd say - the thing that is important about Pasteur (and other scientists) to the scientific community is his scientific legacy.

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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2023, 11:51:11 AM »
All we have from the quote is an unargued opinion. If you know the reasoning behind it (if there was any) then feel free to present it.

 ::)
I'm just presenting the likelihood that a French scientist of the time would have had a broader education encompassing philosophical literacy than someone educated in the relatively narrow english empiricist tradition of the post war era.

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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2023, 12:28:09 PM »
I'm just presenting the likelihood that a French scientist of the time would have had a broader education encompassing philosophical literacy than someone educated in the relatively narrow english empiricist tradition of the post war era.

Great, so we're talking about your opinion about somebody else's opinion.   ::)
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2023, 01:01:39 PM »
I'm just presenting the likelihood that a French scientist of the time would have had a broader education encompassing philosophical literacy than someone educated in the relatively narrow english empiricist tradition of the post war era.
So I presume therefore that you dismiss the narrowness of the education available until just a few centuries ago which was basically just religion, religion and more religion.

Or is this yet another example of Vlad double standards.

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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2023, 01:11:55 PM »
You wouldn't believe how long I spent trying to figure out how to make that pun work - and failed.

Benny Hill did it better :)

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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2023, 01:14:18 PM »
I'm just presenting the likelihood that a French scientist of the time would have had a broader education encompassing philosophical literacy than someone educated in the relatively narrow english empiricist tradition of the post war era.

Ah, so not the 'no true scientist' argument, just 'playing the man, not the ball'.... whilst their comparative educations might have altered the likelihood of a given argument prior to the event, once the science is documented it stands or falls on its own merits. Pasteur's work on vaccination, bacterial contamination and fermentation is independent of how many other things he was wrong about or whether it was because of or despite his education.

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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2023, 06:54:17 AM »
So I presume therefore that you dismiss the narrowness of the education available until just a few centuries ago which was basically just religion, religion and more religion.

Or is this yet another example of Vlad double standards.
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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2023, 06:55:58 AM »
Ah, so not the 'no true scientist' argument, just 'playing the man, not the ball'.... whilst their comparative educations might have altered the likelihood of a given argument prior to the event, once the science is documented it stands or falls on its own merits. Pasteur's work on vaccination, bacterial contamination and fermentation is independent of how many other things he was wrong about or whether it was because of or despite his education.

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Why was he wrong in this case?

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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2023, 07:07:38 AM »



Modern materialistic philosophy is already beginning to look foolish IMO.  We don't have to wait for the distant future.