Football 2023 - 2024

[Nearly Sane]

Suarez joins Inter Miami. Apparently 'the two-year contract he signed with Gremio in 2022 was ended early because Suarez felt he could not play another full season in Brazil with a knee problem and the travelling distances for games.' Well obviously the US is the obvious league to join given that.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67806904

[Nearly Sane]

Sacked twice before the New Year


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/lee-johnson-efl-fleetwood-hibernian-31773390

[Nearly Sane]

And Rooney out after 15 games


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67858866

[Nearly Sane]

Joey Barton is unwell

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67897623

[Nearly Sane]

The romance of the Cup (French)


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67903643

[Nearly Sane]

Everton and Notts Forest charged for financial breaches for 2022-23 season. Lawyers will be happy.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67978537

[Nearly Sane]

Messi gets FIFA Player of the Year. Really?


https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/messi-named-fifa-player-2023-2024-01-15/

[Nearly Sane]

Think this is a reasonable take on gambling in football in the light of Ivan Toney's return from ban.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2024/jan/13/ivan-toney-is-back-but-nothing-has-changed-gambling-is-embedded-in-football

[bluehillside Retd.]

NS,

Think this is a reasonable take on gambling in football in the light of Ivan Toney's return from ban.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2024/jan/13/ivan-toney-is-back-but-nothing-has-changed-gambling-is-embedded-in-football

Just for funsies, Ivan Toney’s full name is Ivan Benjamin Elijah Toney. With initials like that you’d think Brentford FC would have known what to expect 

[Nearly Sane]

Date set for Man City's hearing but currently it's a secret.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67993371

[Nearly Sane]

Can his support carrie Buckie Thistle to the shining win, or will they rage as they sre sent into the dead zone? Will it be misery, or a blaze into joyland. We won't find out till later if it's a fairy tale, or feels like a cell in the dark tower. There will be those with insomnia tonight, waiting to take their place in the stand, hoping for revival not desperation.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68010221

[Nearly Sane]

Klopp leaving Liverpool (never to return) at end of season.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68104699

[ProfessorDavey]

Klopp leaving Liverpool (never to return) at end of season.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68104699

Gutted about this - as a Liverpool fan this is terrible news, but he's such a big and likeable personality (unlike many other successful managers since the PL inception!!) he will be a massive loss to the Premier League.

One stat-oid that really surprised me from the article is this:

'Klopp is the only Liverpool manager to win the league title, European Cup/Champions League, FA Cup and EFL Cup with the Reds.'

Given Liverpool's dominance from the late 70s to 1990 that really surprises me.

[Nearly Sane]

Gutted about this - as a Liverpool fan this is terrible news, but he's such a big and likeable personality (unlike many other successful managers since the PL inception!!) he will be a massive loss to the Premier League.

One stat-oid that really surprised me from the article is this:

'Klopp is the only Liverpool manager to win the league title, European Cup/Champions League, FA Cup and EFL Cup with the Reds.'

Given Liverpool's dominance from the late 70s to 1990 that really surprises me.

Yep, both to him being a loss, and to the stat being a surprise - but Shankly never won the European Cup, Dalglish couldn't, Fagan wasn't really in place for that long. Paisley's lack of the FA Cup is the stand out. They won it the final before he took over in 1974 and then not again till 1986.

Germany national manager for Klopp?

[ProfessorDavey]

Yep, both to him being a loss, and to the stat being a surprise - but Shankly never won the European Cup, Dalglish couldn't, Fagan wasn't really in place for that long. Paisley's lack of the FA Cup is the stand out. They won it the final before he took over in 1974 and then not again till 1986.

Germany national manager for Klopp?

Correct on the reasons why none of the others won all four. The one that I suspect a lot of people forget is that Liverpool didn't win the FA cup during that period when they were so dominant in the league and in the European Cup.

[Nearly Sane]

Correct on the reasons why none of the others won all four. The one that I suspect a lot of people forget is that Liverpool didn't win the FA cup during that period when they were so dominant in the league and in the European Cup.

Has the FA Cup become something that is won by a smaller group of clubs or is that just what it feels like?

[ProfessorDavey]

Has the FA Cup become something that is won by a smaller group of clubs or is that just what it feels like?

Don't really understand the question - but I think the strongest clubs have tended to regularly win the trophy, meaning it is somewhat surprising that Liverpool didn't from 1974 to 1986, despite their dominance in other competitions. In that period they won the league eight times, the European cup four times and the League Cup four times. So rather unexpected that they didn't win the FA Cup during that period.

[Nearly Sane]

Speculation on Klopp's successor

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68106586

[Nearly Sane]

Kalvin Phillips loan means he can play against Liverpool but not Man City. Does seem unfair.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/westham-mancity-kalvin-phillips-loan-31969384

[jeremyp]

Gutted about this - as a Liverpool fan this is terrible news, but he's such a big and likeable personality (unlike many other successful managers since the PL inception!!) he will be a massive loss to the Premier League.

One stat-oid that really surprised me from the article is this:

'Klopp is the only Liverpool manager to win the league title, European Cup/Champions League, FA Cup and EFL Cup with the Reds.'

Given Liverpool's dominance from the late 70s to 1990 that really surprises me.

As an Arsenal fan, I'm really happy for him.

[ad_orientem]

Kalvin Phillips loan means he can play against Luverpool but not Man City. Does seem unfair.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/westham-mancity-kalvin-phillips-loan-31969384

I agree.

[Nearly Sane]

Don't really understand the question - but I think the strongest clubs have tended to regularly win the trophy, meaning it is somewhat surprising that Liverpool didn't from 1974 to 1986, despite their dominance in other competitions. In that period they won the league eight times, the European cup four times and the League Cup four times. So rather unexpected that they didn't win the FA Cup during that period.

I was wondering if it was harder to win because the wins it was more competitive with the winners coming from more teams. Up till 1993 there had been 5 doubles in English football, since then there have been 8.

Brian Clough has the same gap of the FA Cup at Forest as Paisley.

[jeremyp]

I was wondering if it was harder to win because the wins it was more competitive with the winners coming from more teams. Up till 1993 there had been 5 doubles in English football, since then there have been 8.

The top teams are further ahead than they used to be and so less likely to lose.

[Nearly Sane]

Genk vs Anderlecht to be replayed after VAR error.

What if it were to happen at a World Cup/Champions League? This is going to be problematic.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/anderlecht-genk-var-replay-error-b2485908.html

[jeremyp]

Genk vs Anderlecht to be replayed after VAR error.

What if it were to happen at a World Cup/Champions League? This is going to be problematic.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/anderlecht-genk-var-replay-error-b2485908.html

It's utterly stupid. They should have just said "tough luck". Before VAR that's what would have happened.

Not that I understand the ruling. The argument seems to be that a Genk player's goal was ruled out because he was in the penalty area when the penalty was taken, but it is somehow evened out because some Anderlecht defenders were also breaking the rules. Either I haven't understood the situation or the ruling is wrong.