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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #275 on: April 05, 2024, 07:51:50 PM »
Not sure if it's quite the same thing because games have always been postponed due to waterlogging, but I think rules concerning the state of the pitch go too far. A pitch should live with the seasons.
It's because the owners haven't been willing to spend the money on it. Tannadice, Dundee Utd's ground, which is almost next door hasn't had the problems.

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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #276 on: April 06, 2024, 11:44:33 AM »
I'm with Motherwell here. The Dens Park issue has been going on all season. It's a farce that this is happening in the Scottish Premiership.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68734390

What is "the split"?
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #277 on: April 06, 2024, 11:46:29 AM »
Not sure if it's quite the same thing because games have always been postponed due to waterlogging, but I think rules concerning the state of the pitch go too far. A pitch should live with the seasons.

A waterlogged pitch can be dangerous. If there is a significant risk of injury, you can't play the match.
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #278 on: April 06, 2024, 11:56:17 AM »
What is "the split"?
For the last five games of the season, the league splits into top six and bottom six, and they play 5 games against the teams in whichever part of the split they are in. As there are 12 teams in the league, it means they all play each other 3 times, and then another 5 games, so total of 38 games. When there were 10 teams, they played each other 4 times which meant 36 games, which is what happens in the 3 lower leagues. Obviously were they to do that in a 12 team league it's 44 which is too many. Not ideal but ...
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #279 on: April 06, 2024, 01:38:57 PM »

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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #280 on: April 08, 2024, 02:55:19 PM »
Everton docked another 2 points


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68723109

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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #281 on: April 08, 2024, 03:49:24 PM »
Everton docked another 2 points


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68723109

Done quickly, which is good, now let's get to City. Granted, the number of alleged breaches is many times more, but if they're found guilty of only 10% of the 115 charges, they must have a massive penalty awaiting, just for the sake consistency and credibility.
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #283 on: April 09, 2024, 10:30:55 AM »
Done quickly, which is good,
No, not really. There's going to be an appeal but it won't happen until after the end of the season. Given Everton's position in the league, it is possible that the result of the appeal might change the relegated teams. That's not a good look.
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now let's get to City. Granted, the number of alleged breaches is many times more, but if they're found guilty of only 10% of the 115 charges, they must have a massive penalty awaiting, just for the sake consistency and credibility.
The rugby premiership was not at all afraid to relegate their best team when it broke the pay cap rules. I'll be interested to see if the Premier League has the same kind of guts.
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #284 on: April 09, 2024, 01:34:33 PM »
'Security raised for Champions League ties after threat'



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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #285 on: April 09, 2024, 02:57:50 PM »
No, not really. There's going to be an appeal but it won't happen until after the end of the season. Given Everton's position in the league, it is possible that the result of the appeal might change the relegated teams. That's not a good look.

Yeah, you're right. Just read an article on this.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68764608
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« Reply #286 on: April 09, 2024, 02:59:41 PM »
The rugby premiership was not at all afraid to relegate their best team when it broke the pay cap rules. I'll be interested to see if the Premier League has the same kind of guts.

Rugby is usually better at these things though, probably because less money is involved.
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #287 on: April 09, 2024, 03:07:28 PM »
Rugby is usually better at these things though, probably because less money is involved.
Though rugby clubs' financials are a mess.
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #288 on: April 09, 2024, 10:20:16 PM »
Was looking at the process of qualifying for the Women's Euros after tonight's matches. A little convoluted.
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https://www.uefa.com/womenseuropeanqualifiers/draws/
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #289 on: April 10, 2024, 08:43:56 AM »
Was looking at the process of qualifying for the Women's Euros after tonight's matches. A little convoluted.
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https://www.uefa.com/womenseuropeanqualifiers/draws/
Couldn't agree more. I wonder what the reasoning was.
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« Reply #290 on: April 10, 2024, 08:55:44 AM »
Couldn't agree more. I wonder what the reasoning was.
I suppose it means that a lot of matches will continue to have some meaning, and is an attempt to deal with the lack of maturity of some teams by providing competitive fixtures. That Switzerland are playing though qualified is also presumably related to that.

It does make working out what you need to do what the province of the spreadsheet.

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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #291 on: April 10, 2024, 11:10:45 AM »

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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #293 on: April 11, 2024, 06:55:39 PM »
Sheffield Utd will have 2 points deducted if they are relegated for next season.

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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #294 on: April 12, 2024, 04:24:39 PM »
Sheffield Utd will have 2 points deducted if they are relegated for next season.
When they are relegated.
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #295 on: April 13, 2024, 05:20:45 PM »
All the postponements of the Dundee - Rangers game now work in favour of Rangers as Dundee have made the split and have less reason to strain for points on Wednesday,


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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #297 on: April 14, 2024, 04:53:55 PM »
Don't imagine this was the week Liverpool thought they would suffer 2 home defeats.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68754388
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #298 on: April 15, 2024, 08:31:18 AM »
Don't imagine this was the week Liverpool thought they would suffer 2 home defeats.


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I would rejoice, but Arsenal lost a match they should have won too.
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Re: Football 2023 - 2024
« Reply #299 on: April 15, 2024, 10:38:33 AM »
One must have a heart of stone to read the tale of Harry  Kane without laughing.

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