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Nearly Sane

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Archbishop says start of Lord's Prayer may be problematic
« on: July 07, 2023, 08:45:36 PM »
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Alan Burns

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Re: Archbishop says start of Lord's Prayer may be problematic
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2023, 08:56:57 PM »
A senior bishop questioning the words of Christ?
Looks like the C of E is imploding on itself.
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Re: Archbishop says start of Lord's Prayer may be problematic
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2023, 09:11:45 AM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on July 13, 2023, 08:56:57 PM
A senior bishop questioning the words of Christ?
Looks like the C of E is imploding on itself.
So AB - Do you think that god is literally male? Or is the term 'father', when used in this context, metaphorical and not meant to represent an entity that is literally male.
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Re: Archbishop says start of Lord's Prayer may be problematic
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2023, 07:31:38 AM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on July 13, 2023, 08:56:57 PM
A senior bishop questioning the alleged* words of Christ?
Looks like the C of E is imploding on itself.

FIFY (* my addition)
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ProfessorDavey

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Re: Archbishop says start of Lord's Prayer may be problematic
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2023, 09:48:10 AM »
Quote from: Gordon on July 15, 2023, 07:31:38 AM
FIFY (* my addition)
That's right Gordon.

And what we have as the earliest extant texts have been passed through the so-called early church fathers - almost as if by the time the NT text was settled that the church had firmly established itself as a patriarchy. ::)
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Re: Archbishop says start of Lord's Prayer may be problematic
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2023, 10:29:59 AM »
What the Archbishop of York said seems reasonable, Sugden and Rees however misrepresented him and tried to make it about gender issues, (and proving Cottrell's point about disunity). That's how it looks to me; I could be wrong.
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