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No, I don't care for the programme either but there are many stories about social media comments and their unacceptability, and it seems to me that more and mpre often the stories deem the comments so unacceptable that no indication is given to what they were.

In order to have a useful discussion of what can and can't be said, you need to be able to discuss what was said rather than play some form of guessing. The use of asterisks, and twee phrases like 'the n word' were bad enough just for being pathetic but just being told that something is unacceptable is ludicrous as well.


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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2023, 10:45:16 AM »
It happens more and more often. If you haven't got the original words how can you decide if something is "unacceptable" or not?

Obviously, there are exceptions. If Nigel Farage is speaking then it is safe to assume that whatever is falling out of his mouth is unacceptable.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2023, 11:52:12 AM »
"Outrage on social media after mistake by producers".

How is that news?
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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2023, 11:55:08 AM »
"Outrage on social media after mistake by producers".

How is that news?
It's the news we get now but as noted I'm more interested in the gap in the information about the 'mistake'.

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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2023, 12:03:41 PM »
It's the news we get now but as noted I'm more interested in the gap in the information about the 'mistake'.

I'm not. Looking at the picture of the target, I would guess it's either about her skin colour or her weight. The woman was insulted online, but she's probably used to being insulted on line - she's a fairly popular YouTuber. It's about as noteworthy as somebody in the crowd at a football match swearing at the referee.

Still, I note it is in the arts and entertainment section: that part of the BBC news organisation has always been pretty vapid.
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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2023, 12:11:31 PM »
I'm not. Looking at the picture of the target, I would guess it's either about her skin colour or her weight. The woman was insulted online, but she's probably used to being insulted on line - she's a fairly popular YouTuber. It's about as noteworthy as somebody in the crowd at a football match swearing at the referee.

Still, I note it is in the arts and entertainment section: that part of the BBC news organisation has always been pretty vapid.
And the specific gap isn't what I'm interested in. It's that there can be no meaningful discussion about such things if they are soft censored in this way.

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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2023, 12:20:31 PM »
And the specific gap isn't what I'm interested in. It's that there can be no meaningful discussion about such things if they are soft censored in this way.

The Sun comes through.

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“You know why, because Josie is a genuine person, Nelly jelly belly is just after publicity whatever.”

Now you can have a meaningful discussion.

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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2023, 12:29:09 PM »
The Sun comes through.

Now you can have a meaningful discussion.
Again you're missing the point. It's not about the specific case. It's about generalised soft censorship.

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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2023, 12:38:21 PM »
Again you're missing the point. It's not about the specific case. It's about generalised soft censorship.
I'd rather they had self censored the whole story.
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Re: I'm a Celeb producers sorry for liking 'unacceptable' Instagram comment
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2023, 12:40:45 PM »
I'd rather they had self censored the whole story.
That I could get behind.