UK election 2024

[Nearly Sane]

On the subject of National Service


https://youtu.be/ahgjEjJkZks?si=kHuFythLB_CiqM4l

[Nearly Sane]

'Is Labour's 2030 green energy goal realistic and how would it affect bills?'

Part of me appreciates a goal that would almost be in the lifetime of the parliament the election would apply to, after ones 20 and 30 years in the future which are hard to mark against. It does feel as though it's in place to be earlier than the Tories commitment rather than being properly worked out.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmjjy17284vo

[SteveH]

'Lib Dems aim to grab attention with campaign stunts' - makes a sort of sense but another 5 weeks of it may well become a bit grating. Even if they gain a few seats, if there's a big majority in the HoC they seem irrelevant.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c844p844eqxo

Why do the Lib Dems still exist? There's no real difference between them and the Labour centre-left, so why don't they merge with Labour, and stop splitting the Left-wing vote?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

More on the 'cull of left wingers'. I think Jeremy Hunt's line is a clever one "If Keir Starmer can't deal with Diane Abbott, how on Earth is he going to deal with Vladimir Putin?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c800pzlz9k8o

Good until you remember Tories failing to deal with Putin over the Crimea, the failure of sanctions etc.

[Nearly Sane]

Good until you remember Tories failing to deal with Putin over the Crimea, the failure of sanctions etc.

You miss the point of such lines.

ETA - and effectively it then says, we may be shite but given Starmer's inability to deal with Abbott, he's guaranteed to be shittier.

[Nearly Sane]

Why do the Lib Dems still exist? There's no real difference between them and the Labour centre-left, so why don't they merge with Labour, and stop splitting the Left-wing vote?

I was just saying something similar. There's not enough gap between Labour and Tories for them to sit in the middle, if they go left of Labour, the position is taken by the Greens. They might commit to return to the EU but that would probably make them less likely to take the seats from the Tories that they are targeting.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

You miss the point of such lines.

Sadly I don’t think I do. It means a country where it’s easy to forget the acts of politicians while applauding their linguistic and political flourish.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

You miss the point of such lines.

ETA - and effectively it then says, we may be shite but given Starmer's inability to deal with Abbott, he's guaranteed to be shittier.

How are they dealing with Truss, how did they deal with Johnson?

[Aruntraveller]

Sadly I don’t think I do. It means a country where it’s easy to forget the acts of politicians while applauding their linguistic and political flourish.

Don't think you've got it. It is simply a way to shore up what they perceive as their vote. Instilling a bit of fear in the waverers.

[Nearly Sane]

Sadly I don’t think I do. It means a country where it’s easy to forget the acts of politicians while applauding their linguistic and political flourish.

What would Starmer have done to stop Putin that would have been different from the Tories?

[Nearly Sane]

How are they dealing with Truss, how did they deal with Johnson?

You are confused by your tribalism in creating the strawman of noting an effective line as saying that the Tories are perfect.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

What would Starmer have done to stop Putin that would have been different from the Tories?

Exactly, there is no “dealing with Putin in the way Hunt is trying to paint”.

What Hunt is saying is like “who do you back in a fight with a bear, Sunak or Starmer.?”

[Nearly Sane]

Exactly, there is no “dealing with Putin in the way Hunt is trying to paint”.

What Hunt is saying is like “who do you back in a fight with a bear, Sunak or Starmer.?”

And given the mismanagement of Abbott, who do you? It's a perfectly valid point to draw attention to failings in minor issues as indicative of how someone might perform in more important ones.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

And given the mismanagement of Abbott, who do you? It's a perfectly valid point to draw attention to failings in minor issues as indicative of how someone might perform in more important ones.

I think Starmer. Sunak is a Hindu and believes he will be reincarnated. Starmer is fighting for the one life he has.

Sunak then, as usual has little ‘skin in the game’ indeed, if the results of his previous incarnation are anything to go by he’s in for a fantastic future.

[Nearly Sane]

I think Starmer. Sunak is a Hindu and believes he will be reincarnated. Starmer is fighting for the one life he has.

Sunak then, as usual has little ‘skin in the game’ indeed, if the results of his previous incarnation are anything to go by he’s in for a fantastic future.

Oh look, sectarianism,and racism.

Is that you, Nigel?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Oh look, sectarianism,and racism.

Is that you, Nigel?

How racism? You don’t have to be any particular race to be a Hindu.
I just outlined beliefs.

[Nearly Sane]

How racism? You don’t have to be any particular race to be a Hindu.
I just outlined beliefs.

So it's just the sectarianism then?

You're line is just as xenophobic as any of the racist drivel Farage and his supporters come out with.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

So it's just the sectarianism then?

You're line is just as xenophobic as any of the racist drivel Farage and his supporters come out with.

No it isn’t.
In terms of sectarianism. Sunak is a theist and Starmer is an atheist and I am backing him in a fight with a bear.

[Nearly Sane]

'Lib Dems call for more Premier League games on free TV' - well, here's the reason for the Lib Dems

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c900kqxw1lzo

[Nearly Sane]

No it isn’t.
In terms of sectarianism. Sunak is a theist and Starmer is an atheist and I am backing him in a fight with a bear.

And you wouldn't say that about Christianity so you are sectarian, and it's about one of those 'strange foreign' religions so you are a racist.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

And you wouldn't say that about Christianity so you are sectarian, and it's about one of those 'strange foreign' religions so you are a racist.

You’ve lost me and you’ve got form in extreme accusations vis supporting the murder of gays and rejoicing in the death of people.

[SteveH]

Could the Tories be heading for a wipeout on the scale of the Canadian Conservatives in 1993? Probably not, but a chap can dream...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/rishi-sunak-truth-canada-1993-080421361.html

[SteveH]

And you wouldn't say that about Christianity so you are sectarian, and it's about one of those 'strange foreign' religions so you are a racist.

Hinduism is an ideology, and we are allowed to criticise, and even make fun of up to a point, ideologies. If the two party leaders were a Christian and an atheist, I dare say Walt would have made the same point. After all, he was only stating a fact about Hindu belief.

[Nearly Sane]

Hinduism is an ideology, and we are allowed to criticise, and even make fun of up to a point, ideologies. If the two party leaders were a Christian and an atheist, I dare say Walt would have made the same point. After all, he was only stating a fact about Hindu belief.

His past posting where he criticises the idea of secular society would indicate that you are wrong about his position on Christianity. He didn't just criticise Hinduism, he stated that Sunak being a Hindu was a problem.

[Nearly Sane]

You’ve lost me and you’ve got form in extreme accusations vis supporting the murder of gays and rejoicing in the death of people.

can't argue against so you try a bit of lying.