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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #325 on: June 03, 2024, 04:13:32 PM »

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #326 on: June 03, 2024, 04:17:17 PM »
Farage becomes ReformUK leader
And he's standing in Clacton

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #327 on: June 03, 2024, 04:20:30 PM »
Farage becomes ReformUK leader
And standing for parliament. Hopefully, he'll suffer his eighth defeat.
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #328 on: June 03, 2024, 06:07:13 PM »

'Greens furious over 'outrageous' STV debate exclusion', I agree with them but then I think these things are generally bollocks.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c511lgve271o

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #329 on: June 03, 2024, 07:08:36 PM »
And he's standing in Clacton

I can't help thinking that a certain court ruling across the pond may have influenced this latest volte-face.
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #330 on: June 04, 2024, 08:27:03 AM »
The differences on oil and gas production may well get the Tories a couple of extra seats. Very uninteresting debate generally.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0ddlkp9g9do

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #331 on: June 04, 2024, 08:31:54 AM »
Laudable stuff from the Lib Dems but doesn't feel 'fully costed and funded' at all.

I'm getting extremely cynical about the idea of 'fully costed and funded' - not much more than some odd game where you pluck a figure from the air, pick a random possibility of where to get the money that may or may not be possible, and join them together.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmww3ne8wo

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #332 on: June 04, 2024, 08:35:28 AM »
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'fully costed and funded'

File alongside "laser-focussed"
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #333 on: June 04, 2024, 08:47:25 AM »
Following on from Labour not putting a figure on immigration, and being attacked for it by the Tories, the Torues do the same.

Meanwhile Farage does put a figure on ot 'net zero' and declares that we will pull out of the ECHR which he continues, helped by the Tories, to elide with the EU.



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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #334 on: June 04, 2024, 08:51:07 AM »
Oh, and I see Cleverley when asked about whether the Tories will pull out from the ECHR says wait for the manifesto. Meanwhile we get a policy a day released into the wild. I'm inclined to a 'stay quiet' till you've published your manifesto rule as you end up talking about policy that you don't have the context for.

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #335 on: June 04, 2024, 08:52:27 AM »
File alongside "laser-focussed"
If you got rid of them both then Rachel Reeves would be very quiet.

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #336 on: June 04, 2024, 11:41:34 AM »
This article in the Guardian shows that my constituency, Hemel Hempstead (which is significantly different from 2019, despite keeping the same name) is only Labour's 123rd most winnable seat, and will need a 26.8% swing to take it from the Tories. The Labour bloke, David Taylor, is putting in a huge campaigning effort, whereas the Tory, Jaymey McIvor, who is a local and county councillor in Essex and has no previous connection with Hemel Hempstead, seems to have given up - we've heard very little from him. Odd, since the seat is still holdable by the Tories, I'd've thought.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/feb/20/general-election-uk-opinion-polls-seats-tories-lose
Electoral Calculus says there is an 80% chance it will go to Labour.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Hemel%20Hempstead

My constituency: Bristol Central, looks interesting. It's the one with Carla Denyer standing and the odds look good for her.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Bristol%20Central

I'm keeping all the election literature being posted through my door and, so far, only the Green Party and Labour have even bothered.


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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #337 on: June 04, 2024, 11:47:47 AM »
And he's standing in Clacton

That's interesting. Conservative and Labour are more or less neck and neck there. I suspect Farage will probably split the Tory vote and send the seat to Labour.
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #338 on: June 04, 2024, 12:07:08 PM »
Electoral Calculus says there is an 80% chance it will go to Labour.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Hemel%20Hempstead

My constituency: Bristol Central, looks interesting. It's the one with Carla Denyer standing and the odds look good for her.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Bristol%20Central

I'm keeping all the election literature being posted through my door and, so far, only the Green Party and Labour have even bothered.
Having first gone to Oddschecker to see what chance of a Galloway moment and it not being there, I was triggered by your post to look on EC for it, and while it's there it doesn't seem to factor in Galloway at all.
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #339 on: June 04, 2024, 01:23:32 PM »
Electoral Calculus says there is an 80% chance it will go to Labour.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Hemel%20Hempstead

My constituency: Bristol Central, looks interesting. It's the one with Carla Denyer standing and the odds look good for her.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Bristol%20Central

I'm keeping all the election literature being posted through my door and, so far, only the Green Party and Labour have even bothered.
Great news - thanks!
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #340 on: June 04, 2024, 01:56:50 PM »
Great news - thanks!
Given the result last time it's quite frankly incredible that it would be 50/50 never mind 80/20.

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #341 on: June 04, 2024, 05:07:38 PM »

'Woman arrested after drink thrown at Nigel Farage' - much as I dislike Farage, this sort of stuff is idiocy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pp7yg0y3po

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #342 on: June 04, 2024, 05:58:31 PM »
'Woman arrested after drink thrown at Nigel Farage' - much as I dislike Farage, this sort of stuff is idiocy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pp7yg0y3po

Yes, it only makes people more sympathetic to him. He probably set it up himself.  :P
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #343 on: June 04, 2024, 06:01:03 PM »
Yes, it only makes people more sympathetic to him. He probably set it up himself.  :P
Yup - there is some traffic on TwiX suggesting that she is a plant and it was staged - the girlfriend of the ReformUK press officer!

https://x.com/GleannIucha/status/1798023290625417293
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #344 on: June 04, 2024, 07:11:47 PM »
Yup - there is some traffic on TwiX suggesting that she is a plant and it was staged - the girlfriend of the ReformUK press officer!

https://x.com/GleannIucha/status/1798023290625417293

She denies it


https://x.com/emilyhewertson/status/1798005077799809207

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #345 on: June 04, 2024, 07:13:42 PM »
Faiza Shaheen resigns from Labour Party


Hmmm...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c977d5jep6eo


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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #347 on: June 05, 2024, 07:40:33 AM »
So Sunak may have sort of 'won'. And yet, we may all have lost, in that they play acted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmjjzxg7k6no
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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #348 on: June 05, 2024, 08:53:50 AM »
Oh, bad Rishi. Time to go and spend some time on the naughty step and reflect on why lying is wrong.

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Re: UK election 2024
« Reply #349 on: June 05, 2024, 11:34:36 AM »
Oddschecker has Farage at 3/1 on to win in Clacton. Constituency betting markets aren't generally very liquid so are usually more influenced by overall polls but Farage has obviously attracted around 75% of the bets in a more liquid market.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/uk-constituencies/next-uk-general-election-constituencies/clacton