Author Topic: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter  (Read 1688 times)

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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2024, 11:07:54 AM »
Another apparent alleged Harris quote taken from the previous source

"Some propositions are so dangerous that it may even be ethical to kill people for believing them".

Do you think or believe Harris said this? Is this correct?

No idea: I'd need to read it in context, so citation please. Why have we switched to Harris through when the thread is about the views of someone else?

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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2024, 11:10:37 AM »
OK, I'll just ignore your whataboutery.
As I said before one doesn't have to make a moral judgment on
the notion of necessary military action (Harris et Lane Craig) so where whataboutery comes in I know not.

I take it you condemn both Harris and Lane Craig.

However Dawkins would show hypocrisy imv of gigging with Harris while not debating Lane Craig.

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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2024, 11:13:11 AM »
I'm just flagging up the similarity between a necessary nuclear first strike against a theocratic country (Harris) and a necessary conventional warfare against a country(Lane Craig). You seem to be defending Harris.

While not making any moral judgment on either, to support the former or even being relaxed about it and condemn or become exercised by the latter is hypocrasy.
You think in conventional warfare that it's OK to kill slaughter all non combatants? Are you saying that you and Craig think the Geneva Conventions are wrong?

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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2024, 11:24:39 AM »
You think in conventional warfare that it's OK to kill slaughter all non combatants? Are you saying that you and Craig think the Geneva Conventions are wrong?
I'm a lesser of evils person as I said. That involves not OK and less not OK.

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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2024, 11:30:06 AM »
I'm a lesser of evils person as I said. That involves not OK and less not OK.
Not sure how this addresses the question. I did ask what was 'worse' than slaughtering all non combatants but you didn't answer that.


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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2024, 11:55:58 AM »
Not sure how this addresses the question. I did ask what was 'worse' than slaughtering all non combatants but you didn't answer that.
Slaughtering the entirety of many nations?Conquering many nations and Installing religious infant sacrifice perhaps?

What is your response to Jeremy's suggestion that it never happened?

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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2024, 12:29:47 PM »
Slaughtering the entirety of many nations?Conquering many nations and Installing religious infant sacrifice perhaps?

What is your response to Jeremy's suggestion that it never happened?
In what way are those alternatives in the situation?

I'm looking at Craig's belief that it happened, and was justified, and divinely ordained, and what that means for his morality. I'm not doing history.

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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2024, 12:39:16 PM »
https://lib.tcu.edu/staff/bellinger/rel-viol/harris_excerpts.htm

Of course, that doesn't say what you implied. But I kn ew you were going to lie about it.
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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2024, 12:56:13 PM »
Of course, that doesn't say what you implied. But I kn ew you were going to lie about it.
If you are saying that what Dr Harris said and meant was actually gibberish, I have some sympathy with that.

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Re: William Lane Craig defenda the Canaanite slaughter
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2024, 07:27:56 PM »
If you are saying that what Dr Harris said and meant was actually gibberish, I have some sympathy with that.
No. You just need reading comprehension skills.
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