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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #125 on: September 16, 2024, 08:13:51 PM »
Maybe it's for X subscribers only? Here's a screenshot instead.

Thanks. I can see what you are referring to now.

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #126 on: September 17, 2024, 11:02:55 AM »
Said page doesn't exist.

Try this link https://x.com/JG_CSTT/status/1835147773001261535

It's the same as Spud's but with all the tracking crap deleted
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Maeght

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #127 on: September 17, 2024, 11:07:38 AM »
Try this link https://x.com/JG_CSTT/status/1835147773001261535

It's the same as Spud's but with all the tracking crap deleted

Thanks.

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #128 on: September 17, 2024, 01:53:25 PM »
Try this link https://x.com/JG_CSTT/status/1835147773001261535

It's the same as Spud's but with all the tracking crap deleted
Thanks. Somebody on X has said this about the upright object to the right of the telegraph pole, which Jeff says is Crooks: "compared to the person that is clearly moving which Jeff doesn’t point out, it just seems like something else, yes the gap between the tree and building suggests movement but to me it’s the car moving which makes that seem like a person moving."

I think this looks correct. I might have a look at the complex on Google maps and see if there's another pole sticking up in that position.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2024, 01:56:00 PM by Spud »

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #129 on: September 17, 2024, 03:19:39 PM »
Thanks. Somebody on X has said this about the upright object to the right of the telegraph pole, which Jeff says is Crooks: "compared to the person that is clearly moving which Jeff doesn’t point out, it just seems like something else, yes the gap between the tree and building suggests movement but to me it’s the car moving which makes that seem like a person moving."

I think this looks correct. I might have a look at the complex on Google maps and see if there's another pole sticking up in that position.

Yes, when I watched the original clip I thought the point about the car moving so the gap would close was missed.

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #130 on: September 17, 2024, 07:45:54 PM »
Yes, when I watched the original clip I thought the point about the car moving so the gap would close was missed.
As Jeff says, there isn't anything sticking up that could be mistaken for a person, and watching it again I think it is a person moving. So I've changed my mind again!

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #131 on: September 17, 2024, 08:20:37 PM »
As Jeff says, there isn't anything sticking up that could be mistaken for a person, and watching it again I think it is a person moving. So I've changed my mind again!

There are some white chimney/pipes on the roof. I think the 'person' identified by Jeff Ostroff isn't a person but rather the figure you and others have pointed out is Crook. The item identified by Jeff Ostroff isn't really moving but just looks like it is due to the camera moving.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.8585497,-79.9699825,3a,25y,277.42h,91.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svJOzBbCVaG0ur_Sy8cQu1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #132 on: September 17, 2024, 10:27:47 PM »
There are some white chimney/pipes on the roof. I think the 'person' identified by Jeff Ostroff isn't a person but rather the figure you and others have pointed out is Crook. The item identified by Jeff Ostroff isn't really moving but just looks like it is due to the camera moving.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.8585497,-79.9699825,3a,25y,277.42h,91.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svJOzBbCVaG0ur_Sy8cQu1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Watch again, slow it right down and zoom right in. There are two stationary objects besides the telegraph pole and the tree, then another moving object that crosses in front of one of the two stationary ones.
It's quite hard to believe that there would be two people involved, but remember that Crooks was seen without a back pack right up until I think 20 minutes before the shooting, so where was the back pack? We still have no proof of where Greg Nichols and Murco(?) went when they left their posts during the few minutes after they saw him walking round the back 'towards Sheetz'.

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #133 on: September 18, 2024, 07:53:40 AM »
The item identified by Jeff Ostroff isn't really moving but just looks like it is due to the camera moving.
He comes out from behind the tree while the car is still turning right, which proves that he is moving. When the car starts turning left, that makes it look as though he's stationary.
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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #134 on: September 18, 2024, 09:19:05 AM »
He comes out from behind the tree while the car is still turning right, which proves that he is moving. When the car starts turning left, that makes it look as though he's stationary.

Hmmmm - not so sure. But - there are a number of other videos of Crooks on the roof, wouldn't a second person appear on them? Not seen any showing a second person.

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #135 on: September 22, 2024, 01:40:30 PM »
The conspiracies from both sides


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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #136 on: September 22, 2024, 02:42:02 PM »
The conspiracies from both sides


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvglm0rjy2go
Two of my least favourite words are "holistic" and "wellness", both of which are here probably code for covid and vaccine denial, as well as other irresponsible wackinesses, and my least favourite US president is Donald Trump. I don't think Wild Mother and I would dee eye to eye.
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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #137 on: September 22, 2024, 07:13:59 PM »
Two of my least favourite words are "holistic" and "wellness", both of which are here probably code for covid and vaccine denial, as well as other irresponsible wackinesses, and my least favourite US president is Donald Trump. I don't think Wild Mother and I would dee eye to eye.

Though I'm sure there are plenty of people who will use those terms who will think Trump staged the assassinations.

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Re: Who shot the former US president?
« Reply #138 on: September 30, 2024, 02:40:30 PM »
Hmmmm - not so sure. But - there are a number of other videos of Crooks on the roof, wouldn't a second person appear on them? Not seen any showing a second person.
I think you're right, based on This new video. They start at 6:08:30. One person pops up on the roof at 6:08:36pm, moves towards the left as you look at the screen. The timing and the speed he is walking fit pretty well with it being the person seen briefly on the other cop cam at 6:08:45, although by this point he isn't visible on the new video. The object Jeff thought was the shooter I think must be be a chimney or another telegraph pole in the distance.
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