Who is God?

[Sassy]

I must say I have noted how different the view of God, is to all of us individuals.
The ability to learn from each other and see the bibles revelations could help us all to discuss the person God. Asking questions and discussing answers is a good way to understand each persons
point of view.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

For me put extremely simply, God is the Ultimate.

[Maeght]

For me put extremely simply, God is the Ultimate.

So simple as to be pretty meaningless.

[Nearly Sane]

For me put extremely simply, God is the Ultimate.

what is 'the Ultimate'

[Walt Zingmatilder]

So simple as to be pretty meaningless.

I did say, "for me". You might have a favourite nook or cranny that might be meaningless to me.

[Maeght]

I did say, "for me". You might have a favourite nook or cranny that might be meaningless to me.

Presumably by posting it on a public forum, in a thread asking 'Who is God?', you hoped people would understand what you meant.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Presumably by posting it on a public forum, in a thread asking 'Who is God?', you hoped people would understand what you meant.

Not necessarily. Do you get a hat with your new position as Forum Warden?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate

[Maeght]

Not necessarily. Do you get a hat with your new position as Forum Warden?

Yes. It's a really nice hat too. Are you jealous?

[Nearly Sane]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate

And? That's not really useful and is surely just circular.

[Enki]

I must say I have noted how different the view of God, is to all of us individuals.
The ability to learn from each other and see the bibles revelations could help us all to discuss the person God. Asking questions and discussing answers is a good way to understand each persons
point of view.

As I don't believe in any god, the question of who is God doesn't really arise. The best answer I can give is that I note the various interpretations various religions/faiths give to their gods. I look upon them all as human constructs which may or may not benefit the people involved. However, for me, they have little significance.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

As I don't believe in any god, the question of who is God doesn't really arise. The best answer I can give is that I note the various interpretations various religions/faiths give to their gods. I look upon them all as human constructs which may or may not benefit the people involved. However, for me, they have little significance.

You don't know what it is you don't believe in?
Tell me more.

[Dicky Underpants]

You don't know what it is you don't believe in?
Tell me more.

He didn't use the words "don't know". He said he noted the various interpretations of gods throughout the world, and didn't believe in any of them.

[Enki]

You don't know what it is you don't believe in?
Tell me more.

I don't really know if you are being just silly or you are simply unable to understand. But, on the assumption that you really want to know, the answer to your question is that I have no reason to believe and therefore don't believe in any of the myriad of gods which have been/are a part of human society.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I don't really know if you are being just silly or you are simply unable to understand. But, on the assumption that you really want to know, the answer to your question is that I have no reason to believe and therefore don't believe in any of the myriad of gods which have been/are a part of human society.

Yes, no reason to believe what?If you can't answer the question, who or what is God or at least have a stab, I really don't know what you are doing on this thread.

The question "What is it you believe / don't believe comes from Chomsky and he is as far from stupid as it gets.

You did say you don't believe in God or gods ( however you construe them) because they are human constructs. Do you disbelieve all human constructs or do God or gods have a particular quality?

[Steve H]

You did say you don't believe in God or gods ( however you construe them) because they are human constructs. Do you disbelieve all human constructs or do God or gods have a particular quality?

"human construct"  is an ungrammatical bit of trendy meaninglessness, parroted by people who want to sound fashionably cynical.

[Gordon]

Seems to me that the three word title of this thread, and in just three words, is a great (and concise) example of Begging the Question.

[jeremyp]

For me put extremely simply, God is the Ultimate.

Ultimate what? Arsehole?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Seems to me that the three word title of this thread, and in just three words, is a great (and concise) example of Begging the Question.

What shite.

[jeremyp]

Yes, no reason to believe what?If you can't answer the question, who or what is God or at least have a stab, I really don't know what you are doing on this thread.

He did answer it. He doesn't believe in any of the myriads of gods which j=have been or are part of human society. If you want a specific example, it includes your Christin god. You surely know something about your god. Or maybe you don't. Perhaps that's why you Christians come up with meaningless platitudes like "God is love" or "God is the ultimate".

The question "What is it you believe / don't believe comes from Chomsky and he is as far from stupid as it gets.

You did say you don't believe in God or gods ( however you construe them) because they are human constructs. Do you disbelieve all human constructs or do God or gods have a particular quality?

Calling them a human construct means he believes humans created the gods, not the other way around. That's all.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

He did answer it. He doesn't believe in any of the myriads of gods which j=have been or are part of human society. If you want a specific example, it includes your Christin god. You surely know something about your god. Or maybe you don't. Perhaps that's why you Christians come up with meaningless platitudes like "God is love" or "God is the ultimate".Calling them a human construct means he believes humans created the gods, not the other way around. That's all.

I'm waiting for his reply.....and discounting yours.

[jeremyp]

I'm waiting for his reply.....and discounting yours.

You mean you can't answer it.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

Yes, no reason to believe what?

After all these years you still have no idea how the burden of proof works have you. It’s not for the atheist to explain every type of god definition there is before deciding not to believe in any of them. If someone want to assert as true his claim “god” then it’s his job to define and then to justify it. 

I’m an ignostic because all the definitions of gods I’m aware of are incoherent or white noise (“the ultimate” for example – the ultimate what exactly?), and I’m an atheist because I can falsify all the justifying arguments I’m aware of for the existence of gods, whatever their definitions happen to be. My position may change if ever a coherent definition and a logically sound justifying argument come to my attention, but so far at least neither of those things have happened.     

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

After all these years you still have no idea how the burden of proof works have you. It’s not for the atheist to explain every type of god definition there is before deciding not to believe in any of them. If someone want to assert as true his claim “god” then it’s his job to define and then to justify it.

Non sequitur. Completely irrelevant to the question what is it you do not believe in? A perfectly valid question.
And following on from that....what are these Leprechauns YOU don't believe in?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

Non sequitur.

Ah, non sequitur – yet another term you don't understand.

Completely irrelevant to the question what is it you do not believe in? A perfectly valid question.

It's not a valid question for the reason I explained (you're shifting the burden of proof again) and you ignored.

And following on from that....what are these Leprechauns YOU don't believe in?

Using your reasoning, as you're an a-leprechaunist isn't also therefore your job to explain to me what I mean by "leprechauns"?