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Gonnagle

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Richard Feynman 👍
« on: April 02, 2025, 08:18:14 AM »
Dear Fellow Posters,

Whits it all about! eh eh!

Only because certain posters have mentioned this mans name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMFj8uDubsE

The not knowing! but it is fantastic trying to find out about what we don't know about what we don't know ::)

But ( always a but ) just don't tell me that we are not special, us "homo religious" "homo narrans" homo sapiens" and don't tell me that this wee Blue Planet we all inhabit is not special, it is special because it is life giving and it may prove someday that the whole Universe is life giving "WHY"


To end, you should listen to old Cox wittering on about Multi-Verses, no way Cox, in another Universe I am a Celtic supporter >:( no way Cox stick yer Multi-Verses where the suns shines not.

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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2025, 09:54:19 AM »
Some might say, Gonners, that 'why' may not always be a valid question (since it presumes that an answer is available).

For example 'why are we here?' seems to me to be an invalid question, as things stand, whereas 'how are we here?' can have provisional answers.

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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2025, 10:51:35 AM »
Dear Gordon,

Why or how, why might say a purpose, how is the working out, I know what you mean.

But I am a Glaswegian 8) ;D

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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2025, 11:53:12 AM »
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But I am a Glaswegian 8) ;D

Quote
"Are you proud to be be a Glaswegian?"
"Well, my parents  <conceived> me there...Okay I proud." (Bill Hicks was ruder at the time).
BCox uses a superb twist in perspective,  saying there nine planets in this solar system all of the spherical, lots of moons, wind and water and on so.... Why is the Earth so odd when compared to all the other planets?
(The Planets series is well worth watching (just don't  treat this like a spoiler...)

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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2025, 12:56:05 PM »
Dear Squeak,

Sorry mate it was a Glaswegian joke, sorry ( Gonnagle the whole world cannot be blessed such as you 8) )

https://www.google.com/search?q=kevin+bridges+why+how&rlz=1C1UEAD_enGB1122GB1122&oq=kevin+bridges+why+how&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yCAgCEAAYFhgeMggIAxAAGBYYHjIICAQQABgWGB4yCAgFEAAYFhgeMg0IBhAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMgcIBxAAGO8FMgoICBAAGKIEGIkF0gEJMzc3ODFqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:5ba97d3e,vid:QwELepvBAVY,st:0

Sorry about the length of the link but it works, anyway big man ( need to be very careful with usage, saying wee man can and has landed me in so much trouble ) its probably a mixture us and the planet, we can with our wee evolved ape/monkey like brains gaze at the wonder, the awe, the majesty, the beauty, the elegance yes and even the chaos, sometimes coming up with solutions to how this Universe works ( and your thinking, bloody Christian but no ) I am simply going with what those pesky scientists tell me, that Mr Hawking guy, a ba ( ball ) hair either way and we would not even be here, WHY or HOW.

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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2025, 01:59:32 PM »
But ( always a but ) just don't tell me that we are not special, us "homo religious" "homo narrans" homo sapiens" and don't tell me that this wee Blue Planet we all inhabit is not special, it is special because it is life giving and it may prove someday that the whole Universe is life giving "WHY"


Spacial? Depends on what you mean. Is Earth special? I guess in the sense that it's home, but special as in extraordinary in the universe? Probably not at all. There are roughly 10²² (10 000 000 000 000 000 000 000) stars in the observable universe and we can inter from the number of exoplanets we've found that planets are common and also infer that life probably is too, from the fact that it started here pretty much as soon as it could. The total size of the universe may be much bigger than the observable universe and may even be infinite.

There are, of course, unknowns like how likely multicellular, intelligent life is, but it still seems unlikely that we'd be unique in all of space-time in that respect.

To end, you should listen to old Cox wittering on about Multi-Verses, no way Cox, in another Universe I am a Celtic supporter >:( no way Cox stick yer Multi-Verses where the suns shines not.

There are multiple ways in which we might get to a multiverse, some of them more plausible than others...
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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2025, 02:40:36 PM »
Spacial? Depends on what you mean. Is Earth special? I guess in the sense that it's home, but special as in extraordinary in the universe? Probably not at all. There are roughly 10²² (10 000 000 000 000 000 000 000) stars in the observable universe and we can inter from the number of exoplanets we've found that planets are common and also infer that life probably is too, from the fact that it started here pretty much as soon as it could. The total size of the universe may be much bigger than the observable universe and may even be infinite.

There are, of course, unknowns like how likely multicellular, intelligent life is, but it still seems unlikely that we'd be unique in all of space-time in that respect.

There are multiple ways in which we might get to a multiverse, some of them more plausible than others...

Dear Stranger,

Exoplanet?

noun: exoplanet; plural noun: exoplanets
a planet that orbits a star outside the solar system.
"astronomers discover potentially habitable exoplanet twice the size of Earth"


Do these exoplanets have a Moon.

While Earth could potentially survive without the Moon, its presence is vital for maintaining a stable climate and shaping life as we know it, particularly through tides and stabilizing Earth's tilt.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Tides and Ocean Life:
The Moon's gravitational pull is the primary driver of ocean tides, which are crucial for mixing ocean waters, distributing nutrients, and shaping coastal ecosystems. Without the Moon, tides would be significantly weaker, potentially impacting marine life and coastal habitats.
Climate Stability:
The Moon plays a crucial role in stabilizing Earth's axial tilt, which determines the seasons. Without the Moon, Earth's tilt could vary wildly, leading to extreme seasonal changes and potentially destabilizing the climate.
Day Length:
The Moon's gravitational pull also slows down Earth's rotation, gradually lengthening our days. Without the Moon, Earth's rotation would be faster, resulting in shorter days.
Evolution of Life:
Some scientists believe that the Moon's influence on tides and Earth's rotation may have been important in the early evolution of life and the movement of species across the planet.
Nocturnal Life:
The Moon provides a natural light source at night, which is important for many nocturnal animals and their behaviors. Without the Moon, the night sky would be much darker, potentially impacting nocturnal predators and prey.


See this science stuff it is bloody amazing :o

The giant-impact hypothesis, also known as the Theia impact, proposes that the Moon formed from the debris of a collision between a proto-Earth and a Mars-sized planet called Theia, about 4.5 billion years ago.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
The Collision:
The theory posits that a young, forming Earth collided with a planet roughly the size of Mars, known as Theia.
Debris Disk:
The impact was so powerful that it sent a large amount of debris, including material from both the Earth and Theia, into space, forming a disk around the Earth.
Moon Formation:
Over time, the material in this debris disk coalesced and accreted to form the Moon.
Evidence:
The giant impact hypothesis is supported by several pieces of evidence, including:
Similar isotopic composition: The Moon's composition is remarkably similar to Earth's mantle, suggesting a common origin.
Lack of volatiles: The Moon is relatively deficient in volatile compounds, which would have been vaporized during the high-energy impact.
Orbital dynamics: The Earth-Moon system has a high angular momentum, which can be explained by the energy transfer during the collision.
Computer simulations: Computer models support the feasibility of the giant-impact scenario.
Consequences for Earth:
The impact is also thought to have tilted Earth's axis, resulting in the 23.5-degree axial tilt that causes seasons.
Alternative Hypotheses:
Other theories for the Moon's formation, such as the fission theory (where the Moon split off from Earth) and the capture theory (where the Moon was captured by Earth's gravity), are less favored than the giant-impact hypothesis.


23.5-degree axial tilt that causes seasons

Don't know about seasons but my brain is about to go tilt :o

I will need to find out about this Theia.

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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2025, 04:42:44 PM »
Do these exoplanets have a Moon.

Fuck knows. It's hard enough to detect exoplanets at all, which is why most of the ones we've found are considerably larger than Earth. However, since most of the planets in our solar system have at least one moon, it seems likely.

While Earth could potentially survive without the Moon, its presence is vital for maintaining a stable climate and shaping life as we know it, particularly through tides and stabilizing Earth's tilt.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Tides and Ocean Life:
The Moon's gravitational pull is the primary driver of ocean tides...


Ever thought of referencing your sources?

Regardless, although the moon is vital to the exact ecosystem we have on Earth I've never seen a detailed claim that life would be impossible without one.

We seem to be getting close to the Douglas Adams puddle analogy:

"This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!'"
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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2025, 09:04:21 AM »
Fuck knows. It's hard enough to detect exoplanets at all, which is why most of the ones we've found are considerably larger than Earth. However, since most of the planets in our solar system have at least one moon, it seems likely.

Ever thought of referencing your sources?

Regardless, although the moon is vital to the exact ecosystem we have on Earth I've never seen a detailed claim that life would be impossible without one.

We seem to be getting close to the Douglas Adams puddle analogy:

"This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!'"

Dear Stranger Good Morning.

Referencing my sources!

Well here is Wiki jam packed with referencing my sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant-impact_hypothesis

But that is not the question I have this morning, wiki versus AI ?Why because you asked me for references, who do I trust, and my conclusion so far is AI, I trust a damn computer more than a human, oh dear!

Do computers lie, am I asking the right questions, who developed the AI I am using, in the end I am left with, I trust myself, I have at my disposal the greatest computer ever developed, so have you, but the damn thing is flawed, but I suppose that is the beauty of science, scientists take a theory/hypothesis/guess and put it through the mill if it stands the test of time it makes its way into main stream thinking.

Anyway, to end, if I post scientific stuff, it is the ramblings of a computer, I have simply asked a question, is it the right question, who knows, only the Shadow knows😮

Sorry to end end ;) more computer ramblings.

The "lazy brain theory" suggests our brains are wired to conserve energy and effort, relying on shortcuts and mental heuristics to make decisions quickly, which can lead to biases and irrationality.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Energy Conservation:
The brain prioritizes minimizing effort and maximizing efficiency, a strategy that evolved to help our ancestors survive by conserving resources.
Heuristics and Biases:
To achieve this, the brain uses mental shortcuts (heuristics) and relies on pre-existing knowledge and biases to make quick decisions.
Implications for Decision-Making:
This "laziness" can lead to snap judgments, confirmation bias (favoring information that confirms existing beliefs), and resistance to new ideas or information that requires more effort to process.
Examples:
The Dress: The famous "dress" online phenomenon, where people perceived the color differently, highlights how the brain can rely on visual shortcuts and biases.
Resisting New Ideas: People may resist new ideas or innovations because the brain finds it easier to stick to familiar patterns and avoid the effort of processing something new.
Lazy-Brain Labeling: The tendency to label others with "lazy-brain" thinking can lead to division and a lack of empathy, as it can be a shortcut to understanding complex situations.
Overcoming Lazy Thinking:
To counter the "lazy brain," it's important to actively engage in critical thinking, challenge our biases, and seek out diverse perspectives.
The Role of AI:
The rise of AI and language models (LLMs) raises concerns about whether we are becoming too reliant on technology to do the thinking for us, potentially further hindering our cognitive abilities.


Guilty yer honour on all counts, and you have mentioned this before "critical thinking" but then I am a lazy bar steward 8)

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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2025, 10:39:21 AM »
Well here is Wiki jam packed with referencing my sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant-impact_hypothesis

I was actually talking about the moon's importance for life, rather than its formation, but never mind, seems you got it from AI.

But that is not the question I have this morning, wiki versus AI ?Why because you asked me for references, who do I trust, and my conclusion so far is AI, I trust a damn computer more than a human, oh dear!

Generally I'd trust Wiki more, it's been shown to be pretty accurate (although there is some nonsense on there too). Proper academic sources on the relevant subject are better, of course. That being said most AI summaries I've seen are reasonable enough, so long as you don't ask it anything too complicated and are aware that it sometimes gets things totally wrong, e.g. Apple urged to withdraw 'out of control' AI news alerts.

Do computers lie...

Oh, yes. Computers can do anything they're programmed to do (as long as it can be programmed, i.e. is algorithmic).

The "lazy brain theory" suggests our brains are wired to conserve energy and effort, relying on shortcuts and mental heuristics to make decisions quickly, which can lead to biases and irrationality.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Energy Conservation:
The brain prioritizes minimizing effort and maximizing efficiency, a strategy that evolved to help our ancestors survive by conserving resources.
Heuristics and Biases:
To achieve this, the brain uses mental shortcuts (heuristics) and relies on pre-existing knowledge and biases to make quick decisions.
Implications for Decision-Making:
This "laziness" can lead to snap judgments, confirmation bias (favoring information that confirms existing beliefs), and resistance to new ideas or information that requires more effort to process.
Examples:
The Dress: The famous "dress" online phenomenon, where people perceived the color differently, highlights how the brain can rely on visual shortcuts and biases.
Resisting New Ideas: People may resist new ideas or innovations because the brain finds it easier to stick to familiar patterns and avoid the effort of processing something new.
Lazy-Brain Labeling: The tendency to label others with "lazy-brain" thinking can lead to division and a lack of empathy, as it can be a shortcut to understanding complex situations.
Overcoming Lazy Thinking:
To counter the "lazy brain," it's important to actively engage in critical thinking, challenge our biases, and seek out diverse perspectives.
The Role of AI:
The rise of AI and language models (LLMs) raises concerns about whether we are becoming too reliant on technology to do the thinking for us, potentially further hindering our cognitive abilities.


Guilty yer honour on all counts, and you have mentioned this before "critical thinking" but then I am a lazy bar steward 8)

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Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2025, 11:43:56 AM »
Dear Stranger,

I was actually talking about the moon's importance for life, rather than its formation, but never mind, seems you got it from AI.

Well so was I, wiki was just for reference, but I like simple, the Earth is the big beaker and the Moon is the centrifugal mixer, science on a global scale or "OR" science on a Universal scale ::)

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