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Evidence
« on: March 10, 2013, 08:51:07 PM »
I think perhaps it would be useful to have an 'evidence' thread, incuding the info about Egypt, C14 and other dating methods, geological info et al, so it is available to refer to when the creationists echo their unfounded assertions.

There's been some really useful and interesting posts and links, and it would be a shame to lose them.

Please note, only peer-reviewed, scientifically accepted information, logical conclusions, or links to these.

No assertion, discussion or argument. If you wish to discuss a post on this thread, start a new thread.

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2013, 09:02:00 PM »
Here's a site I use a lot.
It gives up-to-date info on what's happening on the Egyptology front
http://egyptology.blogspot.co.uk/
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2013, 09:03:39 PM »
Excellent, thanks AM

I'll add this:

http://www.plesiosaur.com/creationism/index.php

and this:

http://www.talkorigins.org

(Feel free to add links to specific pages on either)

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2013, 09:08:15 PM »
I know this is slightly off topic, but it bursts a few bubbles as far as the most famous mask in history goes.
It is presented by a well known Egyptologist, and sheds some light on the Akhenaten/Amarna period.
A bit long, but worth a watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxN1hm1TmJ0
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2013, 09:36:28 PM »
This site gives correlation, from an Israeli pov, of the documented campaign in Palestine of Sheshonq I, also recorded in the Old Testament.
http://cojs.org/cojswiki/Relief_and_Stelae_of_Pharaoh_Shoshenq_I:_Rehoboam’s_Tribute,_c._925_BCE
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2013, 10:28:26 PM »
The name YhWH in Egyptian inscriptions
http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2010/s10010053.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 03:39:44 PM »
The Merenptah Stela;
First mention of "Israel" in Egyptian records.
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/merenphatvictorystele.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 03:41:01 PM »
I thought it would be useful to have a link to these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2013, 07:40:00 PM »
An interesting perspective in the Thera/Santorini eruption, leading to the fall of Minoan Crete and the dating of several chronoligies using geology and foundation deposit archaeology.

http://tinyurl.com/avqd9zs

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2013, 08:22:09 PM »
Tiny url would help, AM, as that link is buggering the formatting.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2013, 09:34:27 AM »
Quote from: Diarthrognathus Josteyn Ward on March 12, 2013, 08:22:09 PM
Tiny url would help, AM, as that link is buggering the formatting.

I don't like these obfuscated URLs.  Here's a URL that explains why

http://tinyurl.com/y8ufsnp

Moderator: If you click on it, you deserve what you get ;)
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2013, 09:39:59 AM »
Sorry, folks, I'm not sure what you're on about. All I know is that my screenreader deals with the address OK.
I apologise for the inconvenience; I'll try to find a more acceptable, academic discussion with an easy-access address.
Again, apologies.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2013, 09:41:49 AM »
It's been fixed by a mod, don't worry about it, AM.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2013, 10:09:48 AM »
Here's an interesting link to the work at the Abydos site...where evidence of predynastic and early dynastic structures are still being uncovered and re-excavated.
http://www.dainst.org/en/project/abydos?ft=all
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2013, 08:49:22 PM »
On a note about fossils:

http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/

And on evolution in general:

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2013, 08:53:14 PM »
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2013, 10:21:39 PM »
The Ebla Tablets may hold some crucial significance for Bible Scholars (though their date doesn't fit the YEC model)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebla_tablets
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2013, 11:08:55 PM »
A serious look at Atenism  showing why it could never really have influenced Judaism.
http://www.osirisnet.net/docu/akhenat/e_akhen3.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2013, 01:03:25 PM »
http://anubis4_2000.tripod.com/mummypages1/introduction.htm

gives details about royal personages from dyn XVII-XX, and some of the ruling priests of Thebes from dyn XXI, from the latest research details gleaned from examining their mummies.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2013, 03:06:50 PM »
Why David Rohl's so-called 'new Chronology' cannot stand.
http://www.bga.nl/en/discussion/echroroh.html
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2013, 03:53:31 PM »
Well I use this site..  :)

http://www.damselsfairies.co.uk/facts.htm

If you don't think they are facts... well you haven't had my personal experiences!  ;)
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2013, 04:18:45 PM »
Quote from: King Oberon on March 15, 2013, 03:53:31 PM
Well I use this site..  :)

http://www.damselsfairies.co.uk/facts.htm

If you don't think they are facts... well you haven't had my personal experiences!  ;)

Actually the 'types' page has given me a few ideas for LARP }:->

I might have to spilt this off into a thread entitled 'Evidence' (with the quotes) ;)

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2013, 12:57:42 PM »

I like the look of this site and one day will spend some time here......!


http://humanorigins.si.edu/


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Re: Evidence
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2013, 01:42:49 AM »
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2013, 05:29:02 PM »
The youtube chanels of a science journalist with a geology degree - he discusses creationism and global warming denial:

http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54

http://www.youtube.com/user/Potholer54debunks

I particularly enjoy the 'carbon dating doesn't work -- debunked' video  :)
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