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Re: Evidence
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2013, 05:45:20 PM »
Video of the "Merenpthah Stela", first proof positive outside Scripture, of the existance of Israel in Cannan c1208BC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2TP0pGJOjc
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2013, 05:59:19 PM »
A Wiki article on the Elephantine Papiri, and a Temple of YHWH in Egypt, which might indicate a fulfilled Isaiah scripture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2013, 06:56:09 PM »
The text of the "Nazereth inscription"
dating from the reign of Tiberius or Claudius, gives an interesing slant on the Resurrection:
http://www.formerthings.com/nazareth_inscription.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2013, 01:08:17 PM »
Interesting details of Ebla in the second half of the third millenium BC - the putative YEC date for the flood.
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/ebla/hd_ebla.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2013, 10:39:04 AM »
The solar boat of Hetepheres I, Great Royal Wife of Sneferu, dyn IV - before the traditional YEC flood date.
http:www.guardians.net/egypt/khufu.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2013, 10:48:56 AM »
The solar boat of Hetepheres I, Great Royal Wife of Sneferu, dyn IV - before the traditional YEC flood date.
http:www.guardians.net/egypt/khufu.htm

Fascintaing, thanks for this, Jim

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2013, 05:39:50 PM »
Some more evolution related news:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/03/neutral-biodiversity/

I hope this doesn't get misrepresented by certain folks as representing a scientific rejection of evolution  ::)

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2013, 05:56:36 PM »
Some more evolution related news:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/03/neutral-biodiversity/

I hope this doesn't get misrepresented by certain folks as representing a scientific rejection of evolution  ::)

It will when they say stuff like “Our work shows that evolution wants to be diverse,” anthropomorphising the process.

But isn't this just genetic drift? Some of the comments suggest that the article has over-simplified the original paper.

Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2013, 06:46:39 PM »
Some more evolution related news:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/03/neutral-biodiversity/

I hope this doesn't get misrepresented by certain folks as representing a scientific rejection of evolution  ::)

It will when they say stuff like “Our work shows that evolution wants to be diverse,” anthropomorphising the process.

But isn't this just genetic drift? Some of the comments suggest that the article has over-simplified the original paper.

Well, its a popular press magazine - it kinda has to be simplified for non-scientists like me to understand it  ;)

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2013, 10:38:30 PM »
Interesting evidence for veracity of the Book of Jeremiah, and the Babylonian captivity.
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=13409
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2013, 10:52:30 PM »
 “A throwaway detail in the Old Testament turns out to be accurate and true. I think that it means that the whole of the narrative takes on a new kind of power.”

Wishful thinking and ignores shit loads of evidence showing much of the OT narrative to be bogus.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2013, 10:56:31 PM »
I wasn't commenting on the article, TS: simply posting the link.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2013, 11:08:22 PM »
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Interesting evidence for veracity of the Book of Jeremiah, and the Babylonian captivity.

Bugger me with a burnt stick if that isn't a comment about the article.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2013, 11:22:12 PM »
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Interesting evidence for veracity of the Book of Jeremiah, and the Babylonian captivity.

Bugger me with a burnt stick if that isn't a comment about the article.

Actually, it is quite interesting. It would be more interesting if they'd quoted the pasage from Jeremiah.

Plus of course we've no way of knowing if it was a common name, or if it was a title - in which case it isn't necessarily the same person.

However, there's nothing wrong with accepting that some of the details in the OT are accurate - after all, Baker Street really exists.

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2013, 11:28:02 PM »
Found it

Jeremiah 39:3 And all the princes of the king of Babylon came in, and sat in the middle gate, even Nergalsharezer, Samgarnebo, Sarsechim, Rabsaris, Nergalsharezer, Rabmag, with all the residue of the princes of the king of Babylon.

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2013, 11:42:25 PM »
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However, there's nothing wrong with accepting that some of the details in the OT are accurate - after all, Baker Street really exists.

I didn't say all the details were bogus. EG there was a place called Jericho but it didn't fall like the Bible states.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2013, 09:46:55 AM »
Some stunning artworks created in the third millenium BC in Mesopotamia (The Fertile Crescent.....Ur, Ebla, Sumer, Akaad, etc)
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/trdm/hd_trdm.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2013, 07:25:44 PM »
Interesting news article on some new research and how the term 'Living Fossil' is misleading:

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/34927/title/The-Falsity-of-Living-Fossils/

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2013, 06:35:57 PM »
Evidence from Israel of human activity c 40,000 BC.
The Carmel Caves
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Archaeology/carmel.html
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2013, 06:02:35 PM »
An interesting article on paleolithic artifacts found in Israel.
http://www.originsnet.org/mindep.html
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2013, 08:30:19 PM »
Psametik II (greek Psammeticus). last of the important DYN XXVI kings to invade Israel/Palestine in a major way.
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/psamtik2.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2013, 11:16:25 PM »
The so-called "Moabite stone" which gives insight into 9th century BC relations between Moab and Israel, and refers to the House of David....the first inscription to confirm David's existance outside Scripture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesha_Stele
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2013, 07:22:18 PM »
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2013, 08:16:06 PM »
Not particularly important historically - though chronologically dating to c2450BC - this is a new and stunning view of the dyn V mastaba tomb of Ty.
http://www.osirisnet.net/mastabas/ty/e_ty_01.htm#
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2013, 09:50:52 PM »
Some stunning artwork from the tomb of Great Royal Wife Meresankh (III) of dyn IV - c2560BC
http://euler.slu.edu/~bart/egyptianhtml/kings and Queens/MeresankhIII.html
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