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Re: Evidence
« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2013, 08:56:54 PM »

An 'Amarna letter' found at Akhetaten, capital of Neferkheperure waenre Akhenaten, from the client Canaanite king of Jerusalem, mentioning 'hapiru' - the word can also be rendered 'apiru' .
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/a-abdu-heba1.htm

An unbiased definition of Hapiru/Habiru can be found on the encyclopaedia Britannic site at:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/254690/Hapiru
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2013, 11:49:22 PM »
Seems to be a bit like the Greek 'barbarian', which applied to pretty much all non-Greek speakers.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #77 on: July 04, 2013, 08:21:22 PM »
Interesting article on a highly developed port in the riegn of Khufu (dyn III) over four thousand years ago, indicating the advanced nature of the Egyptian Old Kingdom administrative system
http://luxortimesmagazine.blogspot.ca/2013/04/a-new-discovery-4500-years-old-port-40.html
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #78 on: July 31, 2013, 01:46:01 PM »
A link to a study of the increasing aridity of the Nile Valley from c5oooBC-1,500BC through dental examination.
No flood detected... 

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/chew-mummy-teeth-tell-ancient-egypt-drought-6C10645032
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2013, 09:26:08 PM »
A reasonably in-depth study of Egyptian prehistory, concentrating on 5-3000BC - dates for the YEC concept of Genesis.

http://www.egyptorigins.org/prehistory.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2013, 04:05:39 PM »
A reasonable overview of Paleolithic, Mesolithic and Neolithic sites in the Middle East - from a Biblical archaeologist,

http://www.drshirley.org/rel433/Neolithic.html
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2013, 10:21:30 PM »
Interesting just how much information you can get out of one piece of cracked stonework!

http://arkysite.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/the-edinburgh-casing-stone-a-piece-of-giza-at-the-national-museum-of-scotland/
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2013, 10:25:32 PM »
Good pic of the 'Scorpion' macehead, showing a very well developed proto-Pharonic iconography, and therefore established civilisation, before c3100BC

http://www.ashmolean.org/ash/faqs/q005/q005004.php
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #83 on: August 31, 2013, 08:26:48 PM »
For anyone interested in Iron Age Britain, this is interesting:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-23896997
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2013, 10:33:17 PM »
New dating for Egypt....using c14
From the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23947820
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #85 on: September 10, 2013, 09:01:36 PM »
A nice little video about the whole "when have you seen a dog turn into a cat?" (and similar) question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0wwhSlo1NI

Not about dating methods etc, but still relevant to the intentions of the thread.

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #86 on: September 16, 2013, 09:42:53 PM »
Something's afoot.
(Sorry)
A little mystery from Israel, courtesy of the Daily Wail.

http:www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2359396/Archaeologists-baffled-ancient-Egyptian-sphinx-discovered-northern-Israel.html
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #87 on: September 16, 2013, 10:03:35 PM »

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Re: Evidence
« Reply #88 on: October 04, 2013, 08:48:04 AM »
I came across this site.
There's interesting data about meso-Palaeolithic Israel.

http://archaeology.about.com/od/qterms/qt/Qesem-Cave.htm
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #89 on: October 17, 2013, 09:16:37 PM »
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2013, 01:34:04 AM »
Interesting. There's going to be a lot of restudying of fossils going on I reckon.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #91 on: November 14, 2013, 08:43:53 PM »
A thought provoking insight into the death of Tutankhamun, from Channel 4.
This one's well worth a look.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/tutankhamun-the-mystery-of-the-burnt-mummy/4od
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #92 on: November 30, 2013, 10:53:48 AM »
     This is a link for those who still cling on to "Akhenaten the monotheist".

http://luxortimesmagazine.blogspot.fr/2013/11/new-findings-at-tuthmosis-iii-mortuary.html

It shows that worship, on the lines of the existing mortuary cult model, existed well into the reign of Neferkheperure Akhenaten, bursting the bubble (as if it were not already burst) of the 'theory' of the 'first monotheist.
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #93 on: November 30, 2013, 08:05:38 PM »
A thought provoking insight into the death of Tutankhamun, from Channel 4.
This one's well worth a look.


Jim, thanks for this, a fascinating programme. The idea of the mummy catching light due to spontaneous combustion; the fact Tut was buried in the wrong tomb - that created a twist in the eventual outcome - the flash flood that afterwards left sediment which became the perfect camouflage, enabling his tomb to remain undiscovered for centuries..... wonderful, good old (young) Tut!

Just glad, also, that his mummy was returned to it's tomb. I know it probably sounds daft (it's only an old mummy), but I think this is right. All those thousands of years ago, sacred rituals, prayers etc would have been performed at his burial. It is only respectful to honour these practices, albeit many years later.

 
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #94 on: November 30, 2013, 09:13:43 PM »
SweetPea;
The gleam of gold shouldn't blind us to the fact that Tut's burial was not a kosher one.
1. The tomb he landed up with wasn't meant for him.
2. No other Egyptian kings tomb shows his successor doing priestly stuff.
3. Half the stuff there was ' borrowed' from another burial - probably Ankheperure Neferneferuaten (Nefertiti ruling as king)
4. Tut's semi-embalmed body was stored upside down long enough for the oils to solidify in his brain case!
5. Even the famous mask was modified - the face plate being Tut's, but the rest belonging to someone else!

As for Royal mummies? most ended up after being robbed by officialdom in two Royal cache tombs (DB 320 and KV 35)
They are now in the Cairo museum.
Have a look at this site.
http:www.anubis4_2000.tripod.com/mummypages1/introduction.htm


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Re: Evidence
« Reply #95 on: November 30, 2013, 09:42:54 PM »
Jim

Yes, the programme explained that Tut's successor stole his intended tomb. But the successor is virtually unknown, to most; he had his tomb robbed..... so, some may say, a kind of karma for the rotten trick he played on the young king.

Have to ask you about Tut's mask. I went to the original Tutankamun exhibition at the British Museum in 1972. Queued for 4 hours - it was worth every minute. But what I never understood was, the mask, I saw on display, was not all shiny and perfect as seen in many pictures, but very much more battered. So, did I see the 'real' mask? Something tells me I did, because surely, in it's dilapidated state, it was more authentic. Don't know.....
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #96 on: November 30, 2013, 09:55:42 PM »
SweetPea:
Tutankhamun is not really important.
Who preceded and succeeded him are, though,
The predecessor was Ankheperure Neferneferuaten, one of the most controversial figures in Egyptology.
Some believe this king was, in fact, TWO kings with the same prenomen.
Others such as myself feel that this was Nefertiti - Tut's stepmother, acting first as her husband's co-regent, then as king in her own right for about two years.
Most of the statues in the "treasury", the second coffin and quartzite sarcophagus, and canopic coffinettes in Tut's tomb belonged to her burial...wherever that was.
Nicholas Reeves, an eminent Egyptologist, and leader in the field of the Amarna period, gave the following lecture about the mask in New York's Metropolitan Museum of art, and it is really worth a look.

http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxN1hm1TmJ0


What you saw in London WAS the real deal. I've benn hands on with it in 1980!
There are other Royal masks though...from the twenty first dynasty, especially that of Psusennes I, which are, IMO, more magnificent!
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #97 on: November 30, 2013, 10:13:05 PM »
Jim

Well, of course, Tutankhamun is so well-known amongst those that are not scholars of Egyptology because of the story surrounding the discovery of his tomb, with all it's treasures; and in modern day too.

Thanks for the Youtube video, I will certainly have a look! :) 
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Re: Evidence
« Reply #98 on: December 04, 2013, 08:18:10 PM »
Interesting report about DNA extraction from early human remains that are 400,000 years old.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25193442


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Re: Evidence
« Reply #99 on: January 03, 2014, 05:01:30 PM »
Neanderthals might have developed complex language structures
http://www.archaeology.org/news/1687-hyoid-bone-tongue-speech-neanderthals
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