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« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2016, 10:13:33 AM »
Another NS special, in an exchange with Alan Burns.

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You aren't providing any evidence and are denying the evidence provided by the methodology we do have, while admitting you have nothing to replace it. You are not just 'gilding the lily', you are calling nothing a lily and then applying invisible gilt.

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« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2016, 04:57:50 PM »
From Seb Toe, about the 'is it soccer or is it football' frenzy - also up there for the best alliteration of the year prize, even although it is still January.

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Fifteen Fife fitba fans fling fireworks. Fiscal furious, all fined a fiver.

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« Reply #102 on: January 23, 2016, 08:36:51 AM »
From Leonard


I definitely do NOT understand most of the challenges from you 4 guys ... I simply know that you are far more informed about science than I am, and accept what you say for the same reasons as I accept what Dawkins, Harris, etc., say.

Furthermore, as an old man, I know my limitations. If I were younger, I would set about learning and understanding all this stuff, but it is now quite out of my reach, due entirely to my inability to remember new arguments for more than a short time.

And that is why I know we would both be wasting our time if I accepted your kind offer to teach me. Believe me, getting old is a sad business, even though you fight it every step of the way as I try to.

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« Reply #103 on: January 23, 2016, 12:24:01 PM »
A corker from Leonard James:

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"it is written" ... three little words that can make an otherwise intelligent person belief the daftest of things.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #104 on: January 25, 2016, 04:21:56 PM »
Outy,

Quite. Be fun wouldn't it if we could all post anonymously for a day, then try to work out who said what after the event. The correlation between "this guy's a fucking disgrace" (copyright: Wigginhall) and Vlad would be pretty much 100% I'd have thought.

Your scrofulent antitheist avoidance postings round your lack of gussied up justification for your secular humanist philosophical naturist materialust witterings of your secular humanism would shine out like the polished turd, it is.

Sorry to piss on your bonfire



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« Reply #105 on: January 27, 2016, 04:43:35 PM »
Quintessentially wigginhall

I met a woman in Greggs once; anyway, I was admiring her Belgian buns, and she said that my sausage roll looked succulent, so I sang to her 'You're the Devil in Disguise', and she said, what a cheek, so I said, no my dear, turn the other cheek, so she did.

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« Reply #106 on: February 10, 2016, 12:45:07 PM »
There is a gentle acceptance of our flaws in this from ippy, and all the lovelier because it was about a typo

'PS we all have a many and a varied amount of faults NS my efforts at spelling are atrocious, mind you I don't try to order people about, nor would it give me any particular pleasure to even try to do so, perhaps that might balance out some of the faults I have, faults that we all have, of various kinds of course.'

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« Reply #107 on: February 16, 2016, 07:01:16 PM »
"We are our own ghosts as we travel through time, connected but endlessly different, the sum of our failing memories, fading from the copied thoughts which lose clarity but gain shade, depth."

Nearly Sane - on the  Can you have a spirit thread - marvellously capturing the sadness and pleasures that ageing can bring.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 07:20:35 PM by Trentvoyager »
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #108 on: February 18, 2016, 11:53:45 AM »
Gonnagle on reincarnation.

'I do think quite a lot about reincarnation, what would I like to be reincarnated as, a bird of the air is my favourite, but knowing my luck I would probably come back as a George Square flea ridden Doo with one leg, being constantly chased by some snot nosed kid as I try to enjoy a thrown away Greggs sausage roll >:('
 

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« Reply #109 on: March 01, 2016, 09:40:47 AM »

From jeremyp:

Science is the the only approach to finding out about reality I know of - FACT.

I am quite open to the possibility that other approaches may exist - FACT.

I can't think of any other approaches - FACT
 
I don't just accept your assertions on your say so - FACT

If you want me to accept your assertion, you need to tell me what your alternative approach is - FACT.
 No, the problem with this discussion is that you do not understand what science is and you do not have anything that supports your assertions. Yet again, you have been given an opportunity to do so, but instead, you hand out mealy mouthed nonsense about "arguments". I can write down how science works in four lines. Let's see you write down your alleged alternative approach.

Here's science:

1 Guess a hypothesis

2 Work out the consequences for the real world

3 Test the real world to see if the consequences are true

4 If the real world does not match your predicted consequences, your hypothesis is wrong.

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« Reply #110 on: March 03, 2016, 04:22:42 PM »

I do apologise to Samuel but I think the best in some way includes the worst so in line with a couple of earlier posts preserved for that reason, this from Sassy:


Science is the probably the greatest illusion that man has ever invented. Things work because they tell us they work.
Gravity for instance.... We see the affect of gravity but no one understands why it is here and not on every planet in our solar system.

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« Reply #111 on: March 03, 2016, 07:24:20 PM »
And this from Brownie,


Alan, not everyone consciously or actively refuses the offer of eternal salvation.  Indeed, if a person is sure about it, they will not refuse it.   There are plenty who just cannot believe, despite plenty of trying and searching.  No-one can believe what they can't believe!  They are not digging their heels in and being stubborn.  It's just not there.

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« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2016, 10:26:59 AM »
How do you sum up a thread that runs to 464pages in one paragraph?

Like this;
Quote from: The One and Only Wiggie

It's quite awesome how you {Mr Burns} pack so much wrongness into one post, as others have pointed out.   Let me just mention that the literature on perception, e.g.  visual, auditory, is voluminous.   However, I appreciate that your wall of ignorance is very important to you, as it enables you to preserve intact these pre-scientific ideas of yours.  Normally, I would recommend a couple of books to read, but there is no point really, as you are so determined to keep out any ideas which challenge yours.

"Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable, let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all" - D Adams

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« Reply #113 on: March 16, 2016, 12:40:22 PM »
From JeremyP:

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No amount of claiming you know something makes it true that you do know the thing.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #114 on: March 18, 2016, 10:50:09 PM »
Nearly Sane's description of Iain and Duncan Smiths resignations that broke the internet

This isn't principle it's a piece of autofellation by a spunksock.

"Let us think the unthinkable, let us do the undoable, let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all" - D Adams

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« Reply #115 on: March 26, 2016, 05:05:48 PM »
Wise words from Brownie on the 'Deeds not Words' thread:


"We can't do anything physically but we can try to be patient and kind or at least courteous.  Also not chime in for the sake of it, sometimes keeping quiet is the best option (sez moi!).  It's not cowardly to walk away from an argument.

Something I've noticed on forums over the years, not here really but other places, is that posters will sometimes unburden themselves about a problem.  It may concern them or a member of their family; their anguish is palpable.  What they need is for people to listen and be sympathetic to how they are feeling but very often unasked for advice is dished out.  So I would say never give advice unless qualified to do so and it is specifically requested.

In the words of Bill and Ted, ''Be excellent to eachother''."

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power and of love and of a sound mind ~ 2 Timothy 1:7

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« Reply #116 on: April 01, 2016, 09:01:14 AM »
A gem from torridon:

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Curiously, people who make the baldest claims to 'truth' are also those who are least willing to put their claims to the test ime. Maybe that is not a coincidence.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #117 on: April 02, 2016, 12:10:57 PM »
For being a ray of sunshine, Gonzo's


Dear Sass,

Almighty God has contacted me, he/she/it tells me he/she/it will be closing this forum in the near future, trouble is he/she/it did not specify near future, that's gods for you, they can sit on a decision for millennia.

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« Reply #118 on: April 02, 2016, 12:40:42 PM »
Dear Floo,

End times, God is far to busy trying to figure out how to create multiverses, he/she/it did say, I gave them an infinite universe but no us greedy lot are not happy with just one Universe, imagination was his/her/its biggest mistake. :P :P

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« Reply #119 on: April 03, 2016, 05:17:31 PM »
JazzyP knocks it out of the park again:

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Christianity originated as a tiny sect in the Greco-Roman empire and yet every Christian alive today can trace the origin of their beliefs back to that seed. We have never come across a group of humans without previous contact with Christian Europe who independently came up with the same religion ... What is more compelling than the promise of not dying when you die. It's an empty promise, of course, but people still believe it.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2016, 08:44:54 PM »
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For a post full of pig ignorant fucking bollocks this is easily the fucking pig ignoranty bollocksy bollocks ever fucking bollocked.

Squeaky Voice really making me laugh on the bigot thread.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #121 on: April 11, 2016, 12:48:23 PM »
Beautiful, moving piece of writing from trentvoyager.




I have been toying with the idea of posting about dementia for quite a while now. My mother is suffering from a mix of Alzheimers and Vascular Dementia and is getting steadily, and sometimes by dramatic plunges worse.

It’s hard to know where to start without trying to outline the kind of person my mother used to be – and therein lies the rub “used to be”.

Mum was a teacher for most of her adult life married my Dad after the war – I was an only child. She was at heart what most of us would refer to as ‘Old Labour’ politically – but she wasn’t political with a capital P – but was old enough to remember families less fortunate than hers before the war who could not afford the charges of doctors in the colliery village where she lived – and that has stayed with her all her life, a gently fuming sense of injustice against the insensitivity of the wealthy.

Anyhow she taught, I also think, out of a sense of ‘social duty’ – she thought the best way to build a fairer society was through education. Was she right? I guess that depends on who is directing the education.

My father died in 1983 – that is a staggering 33 years that Mum has gone on without him.

And what happens, she gets dementia at the age of 93 and the ties that bind her to the shore of reality grow ever more tenuous as she enters and ventures ever deeper into a chimerical existence.

And as I sit with her, as I do most days, listening to her telling me how she has met her childhood friend, Edith, who has been dead these last two years; or asking me about my lost twin – who never existed; I wonder to myself who played this cosmic joke, who made this possible – and then I remember nobody did. So I can’t even lay the blame anywhere for the guilt I feel.

The guilt I feel because I think I should be able to make this better somehow; to negate this awful, cruel disease – but I can’t. So I sit and I listen and I hold her hand in the hope that she can pull herself back to shore. All the while knowing that I and she can’t.

I leave feeling the premonition of the little death I will feel the next time I visit when Mum has drifted further out on that forlorn sea she is on.

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« Reply #122 on: April 13, 2016, 01:32:30 PM »
Dear Forum,

The one, the only Wigginhall at his best,

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Of course, the irony is that God has provided us with multiple tabs, if you include fingers and tongues, and multiple slots, modesty forbids me from outlining them.   However, only some combinations have a bar-code by Yahweh.

Read more at,

http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=11792.msg605689#new

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« Reply #123 on: April 14, 2016, 02:05:22 PM »

From Sassy, I considered editing out the Adam and Eve bit as I am not a believer but I think it deserves to be seen whole:


What I find extraordinary is the fact that all the talk about sexual relations none have mentioned the most important thing about relationships.

The emotional and stable support that two people in love give to each other. A man and a woman are not just about sex and what goes where. God gave Eve to Adam because she was taken from him and was part of him. Eve was a match for Adam to bring him all the things he needed as a man both physically and mentally.

Sometimes we need to stop seeing the physical side to embellish the emotional side of human beings.
Relationships are not really built on sex.  Somewhere along the way it appears that whilst sex crowns a relationship it is not the be and end all of a relationship.

Sexual relations in a loving caring relationships deepen the relationship but a relationship which is emotionally secure will face any problems in the physical area together and with support.

I personally find bantering of the nature on this thread distasteful. I am all for a laugh and making silly remarks when it is not a serious topic. But one couple I know who are gay have been together over 20 years now. They have no sexual relationship, by that I mean penetrable but they are in love with each other. Strange, I know and for some it would be difficult to understand.
But they are happy are they are. 

Sexual relations are not a competition they are something between two people which should be kept between two people.
I would not want people to think I took them so lightly. Sex and relationships are important but it should never be about what others think or society putting on pressure. NOT about performance but exchanging the emotionally felt into the physically felt.

Love is what is needed as well as respect and care for our partner to make a relationship work.  We need to be faithful and also sincere. We need to love the person before we take it to the level of physical. Otherwise it isn't worth anything.

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« Reply #124 on: April 14, 2016, 07:28:56 PM »
If we have a cull, I realised we might lose the best example of shooting one's foot I have seen from Hope.


'Selective memory there NS.  I have never used murder as a 'comparitor' for homosexuality.  In fact, I have never used anything as a 'comparitor' for homosexuality.  What I have done is say that I believe the 'same-sex' sex to be wrong, in the same way that I believe many other forms of activity to be wrong.  That includes lying, theft, fraud, rape, murder, paedophilia, deceit, slavery, etc.'