SNP. Why Are They Thriving?

[Aruntraveller]

No, it doesn't particularly; but it is some sort of sacred right as far as the unctuous Tory's are concerned; and Cameron himself has been a keen hunter, all dressed up in pink, which happens to suit his complexion

Let us be quite clear about this BA - nothing, but nothing suits that sweaty, pink and puffy thing that is Cameron's face.

[L.A.]

No, it doesn't particularly; but it is some sort of sacred right as far as the unctuous Tory's are concerned; and Cameron himself has been a keen hunter, all dressed up in pink, which happens to suit his complexion

Cameron might have the image of the upper class twit, but he's actually quite a canny operator. Possibly he is personally in favour of foxhunting, but he's not going to let that interfere with his main interest - POWER.

[BashfulAnthony]

No, it doesn't particularly; but it is some sort of sacred right as far as the unctuous Tory's are concerned; and Cameron himself has been a keen hunter, all dressed up in pink, which happens to suit his complexion

Cameron might have the image of the upper class twit, but he's actually quite a canny operator. Possibly he is personally in favour of foxhunting, but he's not going to let that interfere with his main interest - POWER.

I agree.  Unfortunately, he is such a Thatcherite, it is frightening;  and we are seeing those Thatcher policies coming to the fore now.

[L.A.]

No, it doesn't particularly; but it is some sort of sacred right as far as the unctuous Tory's are concerned; and Cameron himself has been a keen hunter, all dressed up in pink, which happens to suit his complexion

Cameron might have the image of the upper class twit, but he's actually quite a canny operator. Possibly he is personally in favour of foxhunting, but he's not going to let that interfere with his main interest - POWER.

I agree.  Unfortunately, he is such a Thatcherite, it is frightening;  and we are seeing those Thatcher policies coming to the fore now.

I just look on politicians as I would tradesmen. I don't worry too much about the background or interests of my plumber as long as he can do a competent job without ripping me off. I suspect that the much hated 'Thatcherite' policies are what is needed at the moment in order to move on from the mess that the last Labour government created.

[Anchorman]

So today the youngest MP made their first speech

http://order-order.com/2015/07/14/mhairi-blacks-maiden-speech-in-full/

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Yep. Mhairi was simply brilliant.

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....and here;s the "Wee Ginger Dug"s blog on Mhairi, BBC Bias,,,,and I'll just stand back and wait for it......
https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/2015/07/16/bbc-cringe-the-norma-desmond-of-broadcasters/

[cyberman]

'Thatcherite' policies are what is needed at the moment in order to move on from the mess that the last Labour government created.

Mate, that was 5 years ago! How long do you think you Tories can milk that idea?

[BashfulAnthony]

No, it doesn't particularly; but it is some sort of sacred right as far as the unctuous Tory's are concerned; and Cameron himself has been a keen hunter, all dressed up in pink, which happens to suit his complexion

Cameron might have the image of the upper class twit, but he's actually quite a canny operator. Possibly he is personally in favour of foxhunting, but he's not going to let that interfere with his main interest - POWER.

I agree.  Unfortunately, he is such a Thatcherite, it is frightening;  and we are seeing those Thatcher policies coming to the fore now.

I just look on politicians as I would tradesmen. I don't worry too much about the background or interests of my plumber as long as he can do a competent job without ripping me off. I suspect that the much hated 'Thatcherite' policies are what is needed at the moment in order to move on from the mess that the last Labour government created.

You mean like decimating the mining communities, and those businesses that relied on them for a living; and of course having denied she would do any such thing?  Yep, just what we want, a caring, honest and up-front politician, in it with all of us!

[L.A.]

You mean like decimating the mining communities, and those businesses that relied on them for a living; and of course having denied she would do any such thing?  Yep, just what we want, a caring, honest and up-front politician, in it with all of us!

Are you seriously suggesting that the government should have perpetuated one of the most dangerous and unpleasant industries of recent times? There was no future for deep pit coal mining - especially with increasing awareness of the effects of greenhouse gases.

Sure Labour always use the language of compassion - but they can't do much with a buggered economy.

[Hope]

You mean like decimating the mining communities, and those businesses that relied on them for a living; and of course having denied she would do any such thing?  Yep, just what we want, a caring, honest and up-front politician, in it with all of us!

The decimating of mining communities was Harold Wilson's role; he closed almost 2ce as many pits as Maggie.  She simply completed the job.

[L.A.]

'Thatcherite' policies are what is needed at the moment in order to move on from the mess that the last Labour government created.

Mate, that was 5 years ago! How long do you think you Tories can milk that idea?

Labour governments wrecking the economy seem to have been a recurring theme throughout my life. New Labour fooled us by promising to be sensible, but they got there in the end.

[BashfulAnthony]

You mean like decimating the mining communities, and those businesses that relied on them for a living; and of course having denied she would do any such thing?  Yep, just what we want, a caring, honest and up-front politician, in it with all of us!

Are you seriously suggesting that the government should have perpetuated one of the most dangerous and unpleasant industries of recent times? There was no any future for deep pit coal mining - especially with increasing awareness of the effects of greenhouse gases.

Sure Labour always use the language of compassion - but they can't do much with a buggered economy.

What ever the arguments about the mining industry, Thatcher, and Heseltine, lied about their intentions. 250, 000 men worked in the industry when Thatcher destroyed it:  there are now just hundreds.  From a local and practical point of view, there has been a tremendous personal cost. Arguably, the real Government failure was not the refusal to keep the industry afloat, but more could have been done to quickly promote economic regeneration and find new work for the miners who lose their jobs, and for those who relied on the industry.

[L.A.]

What ever the arguments about the mining industry, Thatcher, and Heseltine, lied about their intentions. 250, 000 men worked in the industry when Thatcher destroyed it:  there are now just hundreds.  From a local and practical point of view, there has been a tremendous personal cost. Arguably, the real Government failure was not the refusal to keep the industry afloat, but more could have been done to quickly promote economic regeneration and find new work for the miners who lose their jobs, and for those who relied on the industry.

I agree, you can argue that more should have been done to help with regeneration but closing an huge obsolete industry like that was always going to be painful and doing it swiftly was probably the least bad option. I used to know a few miners and they were not altogether unhappy with getting paid-off.

[Anchorman]

Nind you, let's be charitable here.
The SNP have Thatcher to thank for butchering Scotland's industries, and Labour to thank i
for welshing on their promises to remain true to their roots.
This double whammy helped us be the force we are today.

[Anchorman]

Of course, another reason why we are thriving is because Westminster lies.
Not only that, the Eton Mess who is supposed to be in charge of the government which was defeated in a Commons viote over interference in Syria authorised - guess what - interference in syria.



So much for Westminster democracy.

[Gonnagle]

Dearie Me,

Old Lapsed with the old argument, "it was Labour wot dunnit gov" no lapsed old chap, it was Labour and Tory wot dunnit.

I think the whole country should keep an eye on Scotland, Labour has not hit rock bottom yet in this country, I live in hope that English voters will also see through the sham that is the Tory party and realise that the old ways are dead.

Gonnagle.

[L.A.]

Dearie Me,

Old Lapsed with the old argument, "it was Labour wot dunnit gov" no lapsed old chap, it was Labour and Tory wot dunnit.

I think the whole country should keep an eye on Scotland, Labour has not hit rock bottom yet in this country, I live in hope that English voters will also see through the sham that is the Tory party and realise that the old ways are dead.

Gonnagle.

How long can the one party state function for before it implodes, I wonder?

[Anchorman]

Labour functioned as a virtual one party state in many Scottish local authorities for decade upon decade...till we got wise and voted in a reasonable electoral system - as opposed to the westminster mess.



The local office for the Scottish Labour party closed in my town last month....after being in place nearly five decades.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Jim,

Aye I will say it again, the referendum woke up the good folk of Scotland, we are now all a little more politically savvy, and it did my wee Glaswegian heart the power of good to hear the weggie accent in the House of Commons.

Gonnagle.

[Anchorman]

Dear Jim,

Aye I will say it again, the referendum woke up the good folk of Scotland, we are now all a little more politically savvy, and it did my wee Glaswegian heart the power of good to hear the weggie accent in the House of Commons.

Gonnagle.

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Did you listen to Mhairi, Gonners?
If you did, I think you, like me, must have been struck by the content of her speech, and the sincerity with which she delivered it.
It was worthy of Margo MacDonald at her finest - and that's praise indeed.
The sight of the Deputy Speaker moaning because SNP members (and a few others as well) had the timerity to applaude rather than bleat like dyspeptic sheep, was also worth the listen!

[L.A.]

Labour functioned as a virtual one party state in many Scottish local authorities for decade upon decade...till we got wise and voted in a reasonable electoral system - as opposed to the westminster mess.



The local office for the Scottish Labour party closed in my town last month....after being in place nearly five decades.

It occurs to me that a one party state can only function if either:

A/ They employ extremely repressive measures.
or
B/ They can unite their people with an external threat.

Whilst I suspect that Nicola might have fantasies of creating a Scottish STASI, more realistically she is making the most of riding the anti-Westminster wave.

How long can she maintain this for?

[BashfulAnthony]

Dear Jim,

Aye I will say it again, the referendum woke up the good folk of Scotland, we are now all a little more politically savvy, and it did my wee Glaswegian heart the power of good to hear the weggie accent in the House of Commons.

Gonnagle.

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Did you listen to Mhairi, Gonners?
If you did, I think you, like me, must have been struck by the content of her speech, and the sincerity with which she delivered it.
It was worthy of Margo MacDonald at her finest - and that's praise indeed.
The sight of the Deputy Speaker moaning because SNP members (and a few others as well) had the timerity to applaude rather than bleat like dyspeptic sheep, was also worth the listen!

Yes, a good speech, but it remains to be seen whether she can cut the muster as an MP, with all it entails, and with her lack of experience.

[Anchorman]

SNP: Why are they thriving?

Maybe this will partly answer the question.
From Labour's continuing disaster comes a new low tonight.
"Wings" gets it right.

http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-end-of-irony/

shame doesn't come close.

[L.A.]

SNP: Why are they thriving?

Maybe this will partly answer the question.
From Labour's continuing disaster comes a new low tonight.
"Wings" gets it right.

http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-end-of-irony/

shame doesn't come close.

To me, it indicates that Labour are slowly realising that they no longer live in the 1970's.

Scotland still cherishes that delusion.

[Anchorman]

SNP: Why are they thriving?

Maybe this will partly answer the question.
From Labour's continuing disaster comes a new low tonight.
"Wings" gets it right.

http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-end-of-irony/

shame doesn't come close.

To me, it indicates that Labour are slowly realising that they no longer live in the 1970's.

Scotland still cherishes that delusion.

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No.
Scotland has seen through Labour/New Labour/i-can't-believe-it's-not-Labour for the charlatans they are.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Lapsed,

Still living in the 1970's, that brought a smile to my face, well I don't if you are right but if so we have suddenly went all 21st century, we have stuck two fingers up at the Victorian Tory way of thinking and lifted our kilts ( metaphorically speaking ) to Labours head in the sand politics.

You can combine compassion with politics.

Gonnagle.